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Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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No. Anthropic fought and paid $1.5 billion in settlement and agreed to delete all the copyrighted material.

Delete? Wasn’t that material already used to train models?

well i guess its copyright not distill-statistical-model-from-it-rights.

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While that may be the case it’s hard to make this claim when: - Anthropic settled a similar case - Anna didn’t show up in court

Justice should not depend on whether the aggrieved appears in court. That's a structural weakness of US law.

is there a country where if you don't show up to court you don't lose by default?

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Once more: Piracy is almost always a service problem, not a pricing problem. If there was an online e-book store where you could buy most books as DRM-free epub files, and you could read the first X pages for free, I guarantee you that nobody here would care about the OP article. It would have maybe 4 or 5 upvotes.

This is a bit of a fairytale. Probably true for a certain subset of high earning westerners. Not true in general.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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Not going to claim anything regarding Anna’s Archive’s legitimacy, but what do libraries look like in the future? We’re just going to give up and say, first sale was great while we had it, but digital makes it obsolete? When you die, screw donating your collection of “licenses” to somewhere productive; those contracts died with you? Everything is streaming, so you never purchased anything anyway? It’s crazy to me tha…

I work at a nonprofit and the board is largely university librarians. I am asking all of them how have the behavior of their patrons changed in the last five years. How has usage of their subscribed resources changed in the age of AI. They don't share much, but their facial expressions and silence share more than they mean them to. Some universities have cut staff, or reclassified them so that they won't receive bene…

As society's repositories of knowledge, I feel like AI should fall under libraries. Especially considering how AI utilizes others knowledge/text they don't legally have rights to. The carveout we made slightly similar (in that they have special rules for their use) is for libraries.

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#135

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US Citizens are not served by their government; they are burdened with it. The EPA is arguing for preventing companies from accountability for poisoning us. That should tell you quite a bit about the depth of the rot.

Here's a question- and while I admit it is quite extreme- I've wondered this for quite some time- do please tell me why I'm wrong, because I feel as if I've started believing this more and more: Could 5% of humanity be a psycho-path-subspecies? These psychopaths are basically leeches on the rest of us, maybe even a cancer. Not only do they feel no guilt for enslaving other (wage-slavery), but they are also fine with…

You know how we domesticated animals, convinced them/luled them into thinking 'we protect you/your young' while we ate them? I'm pretty sure a subset of humanity has domesticated the rest of us. The incentives are all there.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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The moment I saw their Spotify announcement I expected it to go bad. And they didn't even release anything from it other than metadata! (I understand this case is about their books, but I feel it got a lot more heat due to the Spotify action.) Please, dear Anna, don't disappear on us. We need you for the books! Plenty of sources for music around.

Metadata? Pretty sure they scraped the files and released them too.

Nope, only metadata so far. They keep promising to release the files, but havent yet.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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Not going to claim anything regarding Anna’s Archive’s legitimacy, but what do libraries look like in the future? We’re just going to give up and say, first sale was great while we had it, but digital makes it obsolete? When you die, screw donating your collection of “licenses” to somewhere productive; those contracts died with you? Everything is streaming, so you never purchased anything anyway? It’s crazy to me tha…

> It’s crazy to me that two decades after the iTunes Store the trade and resale of digital goods isn’t protected by law.

You aren't buying a digital good, you're buying a limited license to use that digital good.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

#138

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Are you in the United States? Many libraries loan digital goods, e.g., books, music, movies, and even software.

They do, but under a completely different system than the way that they do for print books. When a library buys a print book, they can keep it in circulation for as long as they want and it's physically durable, but for digital, they're paying either per circulation or for an amount of time. They never own anything, they pay for temporary licenses, just like you never own the digital media you purchase in most cases.…

Is there really a meaningful distinction between how libraries treat digital book licenses and physical books when you actually hit reality? My knowledge of how libraries work is very shallow, but I've always understood that they treat physical books as essentially consumable and have fairly high standards for what a "lendable" copy of a book is.

A purely assumptive example, but if a library pays for a 2 year license to lend a digital book, and the average shelf-life of a physical book is ~2 years, what's the difference?

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#139
They should create a giant AI LLM model trained on that data. Then settle with some form of payment like others did (learning from the best LOL). Then I don´t understand why once bought a book can´t be uploaded online? If you are not engaging in a commercial activity I don´t see the issue, the book was bought is not a state secret. By that logic the cookie trackers, that literally track/spy you and that buy and sell your data for profit and more, illegally should be priority, not some books that educate people.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

#140

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Here's a question- and while I admit it is quite extreme- I've wondered this for quite some time- do please tell me why I'm wrong, because I feel as if I've started believing this more and more: Could 5% of humanity be a psycho-path-subspecies? These psychopaths are basically leeches on the rest of us, maybe even a cancer. Not only do they feel no guilt for enslaving other (wage-slavery), but they are also fine with…

its estimated ~1% of humans are psychopathic. psychopaths are optimized for ladder-climbing (career, politics, etc.), so the rate of CEOs and politicians that are psychopathic is higher than 1%. and that probably explains a lot about the world. however, i wouldnt call people affected by psychopathy a "subspecies", and i strongly doubt they have any extra psychopathy-sensing special abilities like sight or smell. that…

I wonder about the "psychopathy-sensing special abilities" being "conspiracy territory."

Let's say there were a sub-species of psychopaths.

Let's say, for you to be "evil-beyond-reason" it takes M chromosomes having N genes.

As a psychopath, you probably want to associate yourself with other psychopaths, but maybe not live/work among them, except to breed.

Why would you want to associate yourself? Because if you work in tandem, you can exploit the rest of us with less friction, i.e. make laws. Each psychopath draws their own little kingdom, for them to rule.

Hmm, I guess, if the psychopaths could "feel" that another was "one of them" they may indeed work with one another.

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It is hard for me to think, that given the huge advantage of knowing "your kind" that you wouldn't somehow sense it.

This is crazy talk isn't it. But look at the world. It looks just like this.

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