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Post by tsunamifury »

bpodgursky wrote: post #346
tsunamifury wrote: post #343

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This is such a disappointing reality that people believe this. 1) advancements in AI are made by large teams of brilliant people (and individuals who take outsized credit) 2) AGI is defintionless buzz word 3) advancements in AI will need significant changes in either how the model works or fundamentally new non existent datasets.

lol this is just not true sorry. Claude code was one person's idea as a pet project and now it's singlehandedly 5x'd Anthropic's valuation. Sometimes single people matter, that's life.

I was unaware that one persons idea invented LLMs and their coding abilities.

I strong suggest you better learn your recent history —- and how generally these things work

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by soundworlds »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #128
cute_boi wrote: post #86

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Honestly, if Skynet were possible, Anthropic would probably build it first and claim they had to because OpenAI is bad.

And then regulatory capture it to death. Seriously, Anthropic is top notch in their coding models, but they are not the good guys in the tech vs. product for humanity's sake debate.

Totally. They are the only ones who said no to letting their tech being used for illegal use cases.

This doesn't automatically make them the great virtuous team. It just means the rest of the pack are toxic as all hell.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by clbrmbr »

stingraycharles wrote: post #489
ollin wrote: post #246

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Specifically it looks like he's planning to extend the ideas from https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch into a larger effort towards recursive training improvement [1]: > Excited to welcome Andrej to the Pretraining team! He'll be building a team focused on using Claude to accelerate pretraining research itself. I can’t think of anyone better suited to do it — looking forward to what we build together! [1] https:/…

Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly impressed by AutoResearch? If you looked at what the agent was actually doing, it was just tuning parameters mostly, not really trying different novel approaches. I couldn’t help myself but consider this mostly a very inefficient variant of hyperparameter optimization, but someone correct me if I’m wrong, I may be looking at this too pessimistic.

Karpathy embedded within an organization is way more impressive than him out on his own with hot takes and little projects. I hope he does great things for Anthropic.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by 23998h »

bonoboTP wrote: post #498
4ashz wrote: post #492

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More like he'll blog and tweet about using Claude and get gullible software engineers to buy Claude subscriptions and work on their own obsolescence while paying for it. Many people are still deluded and think he is the same person who wrote the informal AI tutorials in plain html. He isn't, he is selling stuff now.

What is he selling? How is this time different compared to when he was at OpenAI or at Tesla? You could say he was shilling those products too. I don't see any shift. He's still posted free in depth YouTube videos recently.

> What is he selling?

Is that a serious question? He already promoted vibe coding and AI hype. Now he is literally there to promote Anthropic and its IPO price.

When he was at OpenAI it wasn't overtly commercial yet. At Tesla he had a way lower profile. Now he is the vibe coding Jesus for deluded software engineers. The impact is much larger.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by yuhmahp »

OkWing99 wrote: post #480
raincole wrote: post #230

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Name three things they destroyed?

1. Figma (in progress) 2. Most entry level jobs for current graduates in white collar fields. (See hiring rates for these positions) 3. Thousands of layoffs (mostly attributed to AI use, while not 100%, the Anthropic's specific marketing push has a huge influence on this - unlike OAI and other labs) 4. All low-code products/startups 5. Web agencies who did small websites for local businesses While AI industry push is…

These seems to be healthy desctructions, if the market rejects them eventually for a better product

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by bonoboTP »

23998h wrote: post #505
bonoboTP wrote: post #498

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What is he selling? How is this time different compared to when he was at OpenAI or at Tesla? You could say he was shilling those products too. I don't see any shift. He's still posted free in depth YouTube videos recently.

> What is he selling? Is that a serious question? He already promoted vibe coding and AI hype. Now he is literally there to promote Anthropic and its IPO price. When he was at OpenAI it wasn't overtly commercial yet. At Tesla he had a way lower profile. Now he is the vibe coding Jesus for deluded software engineers. The impact is much larger.

I think he's just genuinely excited about the capabilities.

(I do understand that for Anthropic it's a brand boost as well, just like signing other prominent researchers, as it was with LeCun and Meta etc).

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

fasterik wrote: post #452
bugufu8f83 wrote: post #450

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Their statement on this issue opened by emphasizing how eager they are to help kill people: >I believe deeply in the existential importance of using AI to defend the United States and other democracies, and to defeat our autocratic adversaries. There is no universe where this can be described as anything close to ethical.

It's not controversial to say that democracy is a more ethical form of government than autocracy. It's also not controversial to say that violence is sometimes justified when it's in self-defence or to prevent a greater injustice from happening. So what's the ethical objection to that statement?

It's frankly controversial to consider the US the arbiter of supposed democracy.

Especially given the context of these press releases was right at the height of "we'll have Greenland one way or another" pronouncements.

Anthropic showed their belly same as OpenAI anyways.

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Post by bigyabai »

alexandre_m wrote: post #401
ActorNightly wrote: post #382

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> Its a bit concerning when someone supposedly intelligent still speaks somewhat highly of someone so clearly not. Have you considered the possibility that someone you regard as extremely intelligent is speaking from real-life experience and direct proximity when they say another person is smart? Or perhaps your bias toward Musk make that impossible to even consider.

That was probably the first thing they considered. Afterwards, you usually reflect on other "totally smart" executives like Gates, Jobs, Altman... all of whom are both criticized and appraised by their peers in equal measure.

In hindsight, it's easy to assess that Gates was a charming moron, Jobs was an overeager egoist, and that Altman is a sociopathic liar. All of the white knights defending their boy genius narrative are contradicted by their asinine philosophies, and in Elon's case he's simply undermined by all of his broken promises, random accusations and manic paranoia.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by jazzyjackson »

yuhmahp wrote: post #506
OkWing99 wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Figma (in progress) 2. Most entry level jobs for current graduates in white collar fields. (See hiring rates for these positions) 3. Thousands of layoffs (mostly attributed to AI use, while not 100%, the Anthropic's specific marketing push has a huge influence on this - unlike OAI and other labs) 4. All low-code products/startups 5. Web agencies who did small websites for local businesses While AI industry push is…

These seems to be healthy desctructions, if the market rejects them eventually for a better product

But it’s not a better product, it’s just cheaper.
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