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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by xp84 »

fasterik wrote: post #452
bugufu8f83 wrote: post #450

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Their statement on this issue opened by emphasizing how eager they are to help kill people: >I believe deeply in the existential importance of using AI to defend the United States and other democracies, and to defeat our autocratic adversaries. There is no universe where this can be described as anything close to ethical.

It's not controversial to say that democracy is a more ethical form of government than autocracy. It's also not controversial to say that violence is sometimes justified when it's in self-defence or to prevent a greater injustice from happening. So what's the ethical objection to that statement?

I wonder if GP subscribes to the narrative of moral equivalence between things the Iranian regime does (such as slaughtering crowds of anti-government protestors) and what Hamas does (such as the butchery and terror committed against innocent civilians on Oct 7th) and any deaths or injuries that occur directly attributable to a US military action. If so, then I suppose they'd say it's fair to condemn the US as evil because deaths have happened, after all. Pacifism and turning a blind eye to anything happening in another sovereign country seems like what that particular worldview advocates. Iran isn't pacifist, but would definitely like it if their geopolitical rivals would adopt pacifism.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by 4ashz »

ollin wrote: post #246
meetpateltech wrote: post #210

Karpathy will start this week on Anthropic's pre-training team, which is responsible for the massive training runs that give Claude its core knowledge and capabilities, according to Anthropic. Source: https://www.axios.com/2026/05/19/anthropic-openai-karpathy-a...

Specifically it looks like he's planning to extend the ideas from https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch into a larger effort towards recursive training improvement [1]: > Excited to welcome Andrej to the Pretraining team! He'll be building a team focused on using Claude to accelerate pretraining research itself. I can’t think of anyone better suited to do it — looking forward to what we build together! [1] https:/…

More like he'll blog and tweet about using Claude and get gullible software engineers to buy Claude subscriptions and work on their own obsolescence while paying for it.

Many people are still deluded and think he is the same person who wrote the informal AI tutorials in plain html. He isn't, he is selling stuff now.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by Barbing »

browsingonly wrote: post #215
Avicebron wrote: post #152

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I don't the comp sci has the same requirements for ethics coursework like mechanical, aerospace, etc..

Passing a mandatory class != believing in its message and acting on it. Unfortunately, rather important courses like engineering ethics have become lumped in with mandatory DEI objectives and similar 'grievance studies' requirements, classes which many suffer through quietly, regurgitating the Correct responses while they count the minutes until they can get back to more substantive classwork. Some undergraduates may…

The privilege stuff feel zero sum?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by CamperBob2 »

xp84 wrote: post #481
CamperBob2 wrote: post #377

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yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. There are several. They're in China, releasing competitive open-weight models on a regular basis.

Ah yes, the famous altruistic China, no profit or geopolitical/national security motives, doing it all purely for the love of the game.

Well, no, they're doing it to hose the US labs. But their releases have the effect of empowering individual users, which is a good bellwether of good-versus-evil in my book.

We can only blame ourselves for everything that happens as a result. For instance, the effect of US government sanctions on high-performance GPUs has been to force Chinese researchers to do more with less. It will be years before they can bring their own fabs up to speed, but they now understand that a Manhattan Project level of effort is called for, and their AI labs aren't going to drag their feet in the meantime. This is how we ended up with a 27B model that can run with the big dogs from only one generation ago.

I hope they keep releasing weights, but don't know how optimistic to be about that.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by lacker »

stingraycharles wrote: post #489
ollin wrote: post #246

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Specifically it looks like he's planning to extend the ideas from https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch into a larger effort towards recursive training improvement [1]: > Excited to welcome Andrej to the Pretraining team! He'll be building a team focused on using Claude to accelerate pretraining research itself. I can’t think of anyone better suited to do it — looking forward to what we build together! [1] https:/…

Am I the only one who wasn’t particularly impressed by AutoResearch? If you looked at what the agent was actually doing, it was just tuning parameters mostly, not really trying different novel approaches. I couldn’t help myself but consider this mostly a very inefficient variant of hyperparameter optimization, but someone correct me if I’m wrong, I may be looking at this too pessimistic.

I didn't dig into what the actual repository was doing, but personally, I took some inspiration from the idea after reading about it and realizing that I might have been underestimating the ability of LLMs. I put a bit more work into a performance harness I was using locally and just set some agents to brainstorming and they did seem to find some great stuff. So I don't really have a stance one way or another on this specific repo, but the general idea seems like a really good one.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by joe_mamba »

wodenokoto wrote: post #487
the_arun wrote: post #372

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This is good branding move for Anthropic. Karpathy is well respected among ML crowd.

Speaking of, how did he not lose credibility at “full self driving next year, better buy it now”-Tesla? It might be Elon who went and said that and said they don’t need lidar, but as director of AI and auto vision Karpathy bears the responsibility for those features.

>Speaking of, how did he not lose credibility at “full self driving next year, better buy it now”-Tesla?

That I also want to know. He bailed out of Tesla right when the limitations of his "LIDAR-less cameras only self driving" system were becoming obvious, and nobody asked him about the hindsight of this obvious fuckup.

>but as director of AI and auto vision Karpathy bears the responsibility for those features.

Exactly. You lead the R&D, so it's on you. If your boss makes stupid decisions in public overriding your best judgement, the leave and go somewhere where your decisions be respected. The ML market was red hot for people like him back then so it's not like he didn't have alternatives.

Although I doubt Elon forced that idea on him, since he's the one who was confidently claiming that vision only is better since Lidar pollutes the sensor fusion data.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by bonoboTP »

4ashz wrote: post #492
ollin wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Specifically it looks like he's planning to extend the ideas from https://github.com/karpathy/autoresearch into a larger effort towards recursive training improvement [1]: > Excited to welcome Andrej to the Pretraining team! He'll be building a team focused on using Claude to accelerate pretraining research itself. I can’t think of anyone better suited to do it — looking forward to what we build together! [1] https:/…

More like he'll blog and tweet about using Claude and get gullible software engineers to buy Claude subscriptions and work on their own obsolescence while paying for it. Many people are still deluded and think he is the same person who wrote the informal AI tutorials in plain html. He isn't, he is selling stuff now.

What is he selling? How is this time different compared to when he was at OpenAI or at Tesla? You could say he was shilling those products too. I don't see any shift. He's still posted free in depth YouTube videos recently.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by hackable_sand »

raincole wrote: post #230
nightski wrote: post #228

Anyone else fearing Anthropic more and more each day? Not from a perspective that they are doing so well, but rather that it's like an industry tornado, sucking up and destroying everything in it's path.

Name three things they destroyed?

Karpathy's reputation, it appears.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by perfect_wave »

weinzierl wrote: post #392
tedggh wrote: post #207

He’s a great educator and seems like a genuinely nice guy, at least on interviews. I hope he continues with his teaching career on the side, although the crazy amount of NDAs he probably had to sign may make that effort a bit difficult.

He is a great educator, not only for ML. He taught speedcubing under the badmefisto pseudonym.

i still probably have my paper print outs of OLL/PLL pdfs somewhere...
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