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You're taking this claim way too seriously. Iran is at war. This part of the information war. Nobody is going to pay fees to Iran to use internet cables.
This was all theory before the war. Now Iran knows they can blockade that Strait and makes these demands so they have much more leverage.
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> I send a bill to every car that passes by my street. It's weird, none of them ever pay it. Also weird: Barely any cars on the street now! https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/strait-of-hormuz-ports... Wonder if that's related.
There's plenty of cars on the street. I'd recommend checking your state department of highways as they usually have live streams of traffic at certain intersections, highways, and other areas.
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> Speaking of, you're also doing what you're accusing me of "months of closure with zero response" how is there zero response? As you noted, only today has it been reported that NATO is considering maybe doing something in the Strait. In a few months. "Don't be intellectually dishonest", indeed.
How is that being intellectually dishonest? You made a claim that NATO and Gulf States are closing bases to imply that they were denying support to the US, not that I think that claim is even true anyway, but even so I simply provided literal breaking news of NATO increasing support for the US here. They may ultimately decide to do nothing because, by July this whole thing could be over. Who knows? You are right thou…
Spain: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/middleeast/spain-de...
France: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/france-refused-israel-us...
Saudi Arabia: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u...
> even so I simply provided literal breaking news of NATO increasing support
You provided breaking news that they're considering it, and that it's breaking news today perfectly illustrates the "months of closure with zero response" claim you're trying to knock down.
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Not quite. Saudi Arabia is a base for US operations.
Saudi and Iran hatred goes back long before that. Shia vs Sunni. Genesis of most of the problems in middle east. Syrian civil war: Sunni vs Alawites(Shia offshoot). Yemen civil war: Sunni vs Shia. When a mosque is bombed somewhere in middle east, its sunni vs Shia. It makes for some interesting decisions on support from the US side. We are now backing the new president of Syria who spent had spent a decade killing Am…
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There's plenty of cars on the street. I'd recommend checking your state department of highways as they usually have live streams of traffic at certain intersections, highways, and other areas.
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> This clearly lacks the context of the conversation thread, to a comedically goofy looking extent.
Are you referring to your own statement where you stated there are "barely any cars on the street". Where do you live where that's true? I live in Ohio - believe me there's plenty of cars on the street.
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Are you an LLM? > This clearly lacks the context of the conversation thread, to a comedically goofy looking extent. Are you referring to your own statement where you stated there are "barely any cars on the street". Where do you live where that's true? I live in Ohio - believe me there's plenty of cars on the street.
I'm referring to the fucking Strait of Hormuz, where the tolls and attacks have resulted in almost no "cars" on the "road".
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How is that being intellectually dishonest? You made a claim that NATO and Gulf States are closing bases to imply that they were denying support to the US, not that I think that claim is even true anyway, but even so I simply provided literal breaking news of NATO increasing support for the US here. They may ultimately decide to do nothing because, by July this whole thing could be over. Who knows? You are right thou…
> You made a claim that NATO and Gulf States are closing bases to imply that they were denying support to the US, not that I think that claim is even true anyway… Spain: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/middleeast/spain-de... France: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/france-refused-israel-us... Saudi Arabia: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u... > even so I simply provided literal…
But saying there are "months of closure with zero response" is factually incorrect. The blockade itself is proof enough that there is a response lol.
> Saudi Arabia
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/how-secret-u-a-e-and-s...
> France
Additional details are needed - this doesn't seem to be a very strong claim. France also as the article implies previously allowed these flights and resupply operations. They may change their mind yet again.
> Spain
Sure Spain doesn't support the war. I agree with you there.
Ultimately, political hot potato on American overflights or strikes or usage of bases (which are being broadly used across NATO members) doesn't match the strong claim you seem to be wanting to make.
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Are you an LLM? > This clearly lacks the context of the conversation thread, to a comedically goofy looking extent. Are you referring to your own statement where you stated there are "barely any cars on the street". Where do you live where that's true? I live in Ohio - believe me there's plenty of cars on the street.
> Are you referring to your own statement… I'm referring to the fucking Strait of Hormuz , where the tolls and attacks have resulted in almost no "cars" on the "road".
From here you can select various web cams and see that the claim that there are "almost no cars on the road" is objectively false. If you're still confused, wait about 4 hours until 5:30 PM Eastern Time and you can see the traffic for yourself if you select a major city.
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> You made a claim that NATO and Gulf States are closing bases to imply that they were denying support to the US, not that I think that claim is even true anyway… Spain: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/middleeast/spain-de... France: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/france-refused-israel-us... Saudi Arabia: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trumps-abrupt-u... > even so I simply provided literal…
> You provided breaking news that they're considering it, and that it's breaking news today perfectly illustrates the "months of closure with zero response" claim you're trying to knock down. But saying there are "months of closure with zero response" is factually incorrect. The blockade itself is proof enough that there is a response lol. > Saudi Arabia https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/how-secret-u-a-e-and-s...…
No, the American-only blockade is not proof that NATO has responded.
> https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/how-secret-u-a-e-and-s...
Unresponsive; "in the early days of the war".
> They may change their mind yet again.
"I might be right! Someday!"
> Sure Spain doesn't support the war. I agree with you there.
Good; we now agree my claim was accurate.
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> Are you referring to your own statement… I'm referring to the fucking Strait of Hormuz , where the tolls and attacks have resulted in almost no "cars" on the "road".
Here's a link (I don't know what state you live in but presumably you have the same): https://ohgo.com From here you can select various web cams and see that the claim that there are "almost no cars on the road" is objectively false. If you're still confused, wait about 4 hours until 5:30 PM Eastern Time and you can see the traffic for yourself if you select a major city.