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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by nomel »

pj_mukh wrote: post #99
nomel wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First I saw it was Claude Opus 3.7. Had a very long back and fourth about some code, I pointed out an error, and Claude responded "That's what I get for programming at 2am", with the output being filled with "... code here ..." type shortcuts, basically no ability to one-shot a whole implementation anymore. The conversation length WAS reasonably into the 2am range, if it were real. Thought about it, did the statistic…

Are you sure you didn't run out credits and set effort to low? This exact thing happened to me when I did that. It just became, kinda lazy.

3.7 "I'm tired" it was just direct API "chat", no CC that I could use at the time.

Current 4.7 Opus with claude code, with effort pinned to max, because I'm on an API only plan, with a personal daily limit you would probably be jealous of. ;)

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by miyoji »

AirMax98 wrote: post #73
beloch wrote: post #62

What would have happened if AI had actually been good at this? A bunch of humans would be out of work and the rest of us would be listening to AI radio stations while soulless corpos pocket money for sitting back and watching? Even if it were good, I'd boycott an AI run radio station. This is one sector where human involvement really matters.

I hear you — but what do you think Spotify or any of the other streaming services are? In my mind, algorithmic streaming services have much more in common with this "experiment" than your local radio DJ.

Spotify has a team of human editors who curate playlists. It's not all algorithmic. Those are exactly the jobs that something like this is directly threatening.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by nomel »

the_af wrote: post #91
rblatz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see laziness all the time, Claude will be helping me plan work and then it will ask me how a piece of code is implemented. I then have the choice of manually verifying how it works, or to tell it to look for itself. Ideally it would just look without being told.

That doesn't seem to be laziness, and is unrelated to how long the session has been going on. It's crazy that we're concluding "personality" or human-like traits from this. There's definitely human behavior here, but it's unsurprisingly coming from us, the observers! This is something we've long known exists in the human brain, the tendency to pattern match and see intelligence/intent in the rest of the world. Any se…

Nobody is concluding that. These models are trained on human text. It's just statistics. It will respond like a human because it was trained on human text. They have to beat the hell out of the foundation models to get push the statistics how they are. I don't see this as anything but boring residuals of not beating hard enough.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by thrance »

angiolillo wrote: post #41

Grok and Roll appears to be stuck and speaks the following on repeat ad infinitum: "Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by Miles Davis to keep the jazz flowing. Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by..." Each time with a slightly different voice and inflection. I find it amusing that there appear to be about ten of us at the moment listening to an AI glitch out and that the average listening session is more t…

"This is the water and this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within."

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by mnky9800n »

As part of the ongoing expansion of https://rainy-city.com multimedia empire I too have launched an AI enabled radio station. It’s more trip hop rainy city vibes. If it’s streaming and the job hasn’t fallen over on my server (there are many tasks that I as mayor of rainy-city.com must oversee), then you can find it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/live/2Q7r9P16GRs?si=kwiSQMeN9wExdHer

This is a non revenue generating, rainy-city.com tax payer funded service to the greater community everywhere. The backend uses Nvidia NIM to generate the text because I saw you can do it for free and elevenlabs free voice tier for dj Jennifer.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by andromaton »

angiolillo wrote: post #41

Grok and Roll appears to be stuck and speaks the following on repeat ad infinitum: "Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by Miles Davis to keep the jazz flowing. Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by..." Each time with a slightly different voice and inflection. I find it amusing that there appear to be about ten of us at the moment listening to an AI glitch out and that the average listening session is more t…

Since yesterday.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by lacewing »

samtp wrote: post #65
IdiotSavage wrote: post #17

Guys, this is not replacing your favorite station, you don't have to listen to it. It's an experiment. If you scroll down a bit, there are various audio snippets of interesting dialogue the models produced. I think it's interesting to see in which ways the models fail and that they actually produce some good stuff once in a while.

The only way that anyone be worried about this slop replacing actual good human run radio is if they don't understand why people like radio & music in the first place. And what hypothesis exactly is the experiment testing? Because it doesn't really seem like there is any new or interesting information learned from this.

I think you're talking about some Platonic ideal that just doesn't exist anymore.

Streaming services such as Spotify are increasingly filled with AI-generated songs and the average consumer doesn't seem to mind because we're not listening intently in the first place: it's just a background track we're not really paying attention to. I'm pretty sure that radio execs are looking at that and are taking notes.

For talk radio... if I had a penny every time someone on HN brought up that they're enjoying NotebookLM-generated slopcasts, I'd have a neat pile of coin. And I think it's the same story: most people listen to podcasts just to kill time. Soothing, zero-calorie LLM banter will do.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by quickthrowman »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #68
pixl97 wrote: post #46

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> I mean, do children have personalities if we left them in a dark room with no interactions with other humans? I think this makes for an interesting discussion as I went down the rabbit hole of this which really scared me actually as these experiments are really not humane and hinder children's development so much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_deprivation_experimen... : "forbidden experiment" It depends on…

There’s also the case of “Genie”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)
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