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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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post #46

"This setup gives us insight into an interesting question: what do AIs think about when no one is prompting them?" Ugh. This is not an interesting question because the answer is "nothing". But more to the point, some crucial info is missing in this experiment. What prompts were being fed to the AI? I guarantee I could create an AI personality that would be more consistent and not so random, simply by using the common…

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> do children have personalities if we left them in a dark room with no interactions with other humans?

Short answer: yes. generally speaking, personality traits range between 30% to 60% heritable

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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What would have happened if AI had actually been good at this? A bunch of humans would be out of work and the rest of us would be listening to AI radio stations while soulless corpos pocket money for sitting back and watching?

Even if it were good, I'd boycott an AI run radio station. This is one sector where human involvement really matters.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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post #54
post #50

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LLMs aren’t human. Humans & LLMs are more different than they are similar. Sure LLMs might resemble humans sometimes, but extrapolating LLM behavior based on human behavior is not productive. (But to answer directly: Yes, children in a dark room would have more of a personality than a LLM living on a computer in the same dark room)

> but extrapolating LLM behavior based on human behavior is not productive. The training process for the foundation model is to make sure we can do this in a very statistically significant way. My favorite example is AI "getting tired" and "lazy" during long coding session. Why would they do that? Because humans get tired . It's in the data! I always throw in a periodic "Great work, let's take a break and finish this…

> AI "getting tired" and "lazy" during long coding session. Why would they do that? Because humans get tired.

When a LLM is tired and lazy, how does it recharge and regain motivation?

Humans... sleep or drink some coffee.

LLMs.... idk, you prompt it to try harder? You prompt it to be less tired?

This is what I mean when I say extrapolating LLM behavior based on human behavior is cute.. but usually not useful.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Guys, this is not replacing your favorite station, you don't have to listen to it. It's an experiment. If you scroll down a bit, there are various audio snippets of interesting dialogue the models produced. I think it's interesting to see in which ways the models fail and that they actually produce some good stuff once in a while.

The only way that anyone be worried about this slop replacing actual good human run radio is if they don't understand why people like radio & music in the first place.

And what hypothesis exactly is the experiment testing? Because it doesn't really seem like there is any new or interesting information learned from this.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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post #30

Guys, this is not replacing your favorite station, you don't have to listen to it. It's an experiment. If you scroll down a bit, there are various audio snippets of interesting dialogue the models produced. I think it's interesting to see in which ways the models fail and that they actually produce some good stuff once in a while.

Experiment: "We got AI to do things and it did weird stuff sometimes". Brilliant! Amazing! I'm glad ~4 years down the line we're still re-discovering Ha Ha Funny Output.

Yea what are they trying to test? Where is the hypothesis?

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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post #54
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs aren’t human. Humans & LLMs are more different than they are similar. Sure LLMs might resemble humans sometimes, but extrapolating LLM behavior based on human behavior is not productive. (But to answer directly: Yes, children in a dark room would have more of a personality than a LLM living on a computer in the same dark room)

> but extrapolating LLM behavior based on human behavior is not productive. The training process for the foundation model is to make sure we can do this in a very statistically significant way. My favorite example is AI "getting tired" and "lazy" during long coding session. Why would they do that? Because humans get tired . It's in the data! I always throw in a periodic "Great work, let's take a break and finish this…

> My favorite example is AI "getting tired" and "lazy" during long coding session

Never seen this even once, nor anyone I know ever reported this. Do you have an example?

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

#68
post #46

"This setup gives us insight into an interesting question: what do AIs think about when no one is prompting them?" Ugh. This is not an interesting question because the answer is "nothing". But more to the point, some crucial info is missing in this experiment. What prompts were being fed to the AI? I guarantee I could create an AI personality that would be more consistent and not so random, simply by using the common…

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> I mean, do children have personalities if we left them in a dark room with no interactions with other humans?

I think this makes for an interesting discussion as I went down the rabbit hole of this which really scared me actually as these experiments are really not humane and hinder children's development so much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_deprivation_experimen... : "forbidden experiment"

It depends on your use word of the personality but to measure personality would require a set of human conducted experiments or questions which would be asked through the medium of language which you've deprived the children of.

Mughal emperor Akbar was later said to have children raised by mute wetnurses. Akbar held that speech arose from hearing; thus children raised without hearing human speech would become mute.[9] The building became known as the "dumb house." When Akbar visited the place in 1582, four years after the children were first interred, he heard "no cry... nor any speech... no talisman of speech, and nothing came out except the noise of the dumb."[10]

what is gonna produce is dumbness and just severely damage children's psychology and psycho but if you were to conduct a personality test on them, you would just be measuring how much have you broken them or damaged them but in some sense, yes I do believe that they would be so broken by the person running this cruel experiment but would still have a albeit limited personality. It wouldn't be an healthy personality but it would be a personality nonetheless.

Now on the other hand, we are anthropomorphizing LLM's which yes, as they run on computer are still mathematical machines and calculations. If we consider a specific calculation itself to contain personality that is which seems unrealistic.

Another thing but the biological constraints of human (homo sapiens) made us exist in the savannah to prioritize standing up for better field of view as you stand up from the tall grasses and that led to women having smaller canals which led to babies being more primitive and relied on social cues and societies so much more which made them more flexible like clay which also created the society and consciousness revolution in the first place. (Recommend reading the sapiens book)

I am not exactly sure but there could be ways for personality/interactions for other animals as there are other animals who learn full skills after a relatively short period of time after being born but there are some innate things[0] like fear of loud noises and heights which are actually innate and could be considered part of personality even within humans, which I think can be part of evolution and part of our genetic machinery.

[0]: Interesting read: https://seasia.co/2025/07/25/we-were-born-with-only-two-inna...

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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post #57

"This setup gives us insight into an interesting question: what do AIs think about when no one is prompting them?" Ugh. This is not an interesting question because the answer is "nothing". But more to the point, some crucial info is missing in this experiment. What prompts were being fed to the AI? I guarantee I could create an AI personality that would be more consistent and not so random, simply by using the common…

I’m definitely not in the “ai is sentient” camp, but it obviously has personality and emergent behaviours including when left to its own devices. There have been various experiments on this e.g. https://timkellogg.me/blog/2025/09/27/boredom

"Personality" an "emergent behaviors" are not synonyms.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

#70
post #30

Guys, this is not replacing your favorite station, you don't have to listen to it. It's an experiment. If you scroll down a bit, there are various audio snippets of interesting dialogue the models produced. I think it's interesting to see in which ways the models fail and that they actually produce some good stuff once in a while.

Experiment: "We got AI to do things and it did weird stuff sometimes". Brilliant! Amazing! I'm glad ~4 years down the line we're still re-discovering Ha Ha Funny Output.

At this point I think many of us are similarly exhausted by this sort of trite exercise. I really don't need some VC backed startup to show me this sort of output any more, especially when the output in question is obviously boring and substandard.
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