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Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

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Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#41
This is insane! Using the "law" to get to this unprecedented levels of harassment against KIDS! I mean, for fuck's sake: THINK OF THE KIDS!

I honestly want to see more and more of this, there's an already growing wave of anti-MAFIAA and this kind of abuses will only make it bigger and meaner. The bubble will burst at some point and it won't be pleasant.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#42
Just as worrying is the level of IT the people who take the laptop and other IT equipment away actualy have.

They could image the laptop, but no they take it away, leave it in a pile for months and then return it knowing full well that any data is not biometricaly tagged with any individual and as such a good lawyer would stamp all over it. TCP/IP in effect could be deemed entrapment in how it works.

Sad thing is I have music CD's that now over 20-30 years old are rusting a bit and some are unplayable. I would not moraly have an issue of getting a replacement via the internet for the cost of my time and internet. Now I know it is wrong and I should not have to spend my time and internet obtaining what I already paid for and was misold as a undistructable media at the time, but I'm a fair chap. But those that enforce there copyrights are not fair.

I have a file on all my computers called do not open without prior permision, its a realy evil file with compression bomb embeded picture saying "piss off" after about 50+ layers. If somebody investigates my computers without my permission or following the instructions to use my computer then that person will waste alot of there time. OK I now need some illegal mp3's but nobody is perfect and with that this is yet another case of the system being highlighted for what it is, messed up and moraly wrong.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#43
post #3

Clicked through to the article hoping to see a picture of the laptop. Was not disappointed! :) On topic though, this just shows how ridiculous the MAFIAA is getting these days. Unfortunately, this episode played out negatively on the artist as well - who probably had nothing to do with the event. So piracy harms the artist, but in this case the MAFIAA hurt the artist even more by prosecuting someone for it [1] ? Not…

I doubt that is the girls actual laptop. Looks to clean and unused, more like a product picture. I would imagine her laptop to have stickers and glitter all over it.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#44
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a point. But if you prefer listening on your iPod, you would buy the MP3 instead of a physical CD.

That depends on whether the music exists in MP3 format, though. Until yesterday, there was no AC/DC on online music stores like iTunes.

I know everybody loves to offer anecdotes when it comes to piracy, but I would never purchase music if I hadn't first downloaded it. One example, I heard of a band called Imaginary Cities from somebody online. Gave 'em a download, absolutely loved them. Sent $10 to the band's Paypal to cover the pirated album.

Six months later, I still really love this band. I go to their website and buy the album digitally. My thinking being "I might as well purchase it the right way".

Six months later, they come to my town. I buy a ticket, and also purchase a physical CD (cause I'm a sucker).

I wouldn't have bought their album 3 times if I hadn't been able to pirate it first. I would have never even heard them play.

Now I don't claim this is the case for all the music I download. A lot of it is terrible (I grab the SXSW compilation every year). But I would spend far less money on music if I had to buy an album before I could listen it. And not just a 30 second sample, but enough time to really learn to love it. I didn't care for the newest Metric album at first, but after enough listens I came to really like it. The new Jonathan Coulton album, pirated, and again donated directly to him to pay for it.

This system may not work for everybody, but it sure works for me. I can filter out the crap, and pay directly to the artists I love (usually bypassing a huge cut taken from the middle men).

So if you have one take-away from this point, it should be to go listen to Imaginary Cities right away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2L7VT0Vg9E

And also that the cost of piracy is really hard to quantify.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#45
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How do these NDAs work? Can they really demand that you pay them money and not tell anyone? Seems pretty creepy.

You always have the right to refuse though and have the courts sort it out, should they choose to pursue a case.

Courts are best as you can put in counter claims and with todays technlology we still don't have storage that ties up that data to a user that is as good as DNA and DNA is not perfect.

Counter sue, entrapment, backmail, bullying, cartell - just anything remotely tangable then chuck it at them back. There rules after all

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#46
post #3

Clicked through to the article hoping to see a picture of the laptop. Was not disappointed! :) On topic though, this just shows how ridiculous the MAFIAA is getting these days. Unfortunately, this episode played out negatively on the artist as well - who probably had nothing to do with the event. So piracy harms the artist, but in this case the MAFIAA hurt the artist even more by prosecuting someone for it [1] ? Not…

The picture I have in my head now is a group of police gathered around a Winnie-The-Pooh laptop listening to the latest Chisu music.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#48
post #42

Just as worrying is the level of IT the people who take the laptop and other IT equipment away actualy have. They could image the laptop, but no they take it away, leave it in a pile for months and then return it knowing full well that any data is not biometricaly tagged with any individual and as such a good lawyer would stamp all over it. TCP/IP in effect could be deemed entrapment in how it works. Sad thing is I h…

Yes because if they imaged the laptop that would make it all better.

9 year old girl downloading music -> payup and shutup or be taken away. Is the Mafia minus the class. It's damn scary.

I couldn't find a youtube clip of Christian Rock Hard by South Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dHKtpxyfw&feature=relat...

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#49
post #32
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The age of criminal responsibility in Finland is 15. So I'm at a loss at what is going to happen to this 9 year old girl. Certainly downloading music without paying for it is wrong. But there are much better ways of dealing with this than sending in the police. And justice needs to be public. (With a few rare exceptions). Forcing people to sign NDAs is creepy and weird. I'd be interested to know what would have happe…

I don't think this happened because the girl downloaded music. She got into trouble because she used BitTorrent which, by default, makes you upload everything you download. The MAFIAA goes after uploaders, not downloaders. If the girl had used something like MegaUpload to download all her music, all her troubles would never have happened. Therefore, I don't think it would change anything (from a legal point of view,…

They go after downloaders do <10 seconds of Googleing to see.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#50
post #3

Clicked through to the article hoping to see a picture of the laptop. Was not disappointed! :) On topic though, this just shows how ridiculous the MAFIAA is getting these days. Unfortunately, this episode played out negatively on the artist as well - who probably had nothing to do with the event. So piracy harms the artist, but in this case the MAFIAA hurt the artist even more by prosecuting someone for it [1] ? Not…

I'm wondering if the backlash might actually be a good thing. If this sort of backlash becomes common, there will be a disincentive for artists to sign up with records who indulge in such nonsense. Perhaps the system will adapt such that prosecutions like this would be eliminated.
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