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Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by wiether »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #143
jrsj wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s gotten better within the last month or so but historically there’s been an excessive amount of anti-OAI and pro-Anthropic activity on this site as well and I’ve seen numerous posts get downvoted and almost instantly flagged for calling this out more politely than you have here. So at least anecdotally I really don’t think it’s fair to portray this as OAI doing some sort of social media psyop as if others aren’t…

IDK if I'd call it "better." HN did a massive 180 in the last month or two, and nearly every post or comment related to Anthropic is just a hate post. The amount of anger against Anthropic on HN doesn't reflect anything I see in reality (and I work at a pretty big FAANG with Codex and Claude Code, both are great) so I do suspect that OAI is doing some guerrilla marketing here, while Anthropic isn't really marketing o…

  > I do suspect that OAI is doing some guerrilla marketing here, while Anthropic isn't really marketing or doing PR at all.
That is a very HN-minded comment.

Sure, there's probably some accounts that are more or less controlled by the big AI labs here.

But looking at how humans have been acting for the last 20 years, you'll see that you don't need to pay people to promote things. They'll do it freely, because they identify with it and they can't fathom other people not agreeing with them.

Do you really thing that the weekly posts about people dropping AWS for Hetzner are paid by the German company?

No.

People have limited time and money. Some picked Claude, others picked Codex. Claude seems to be the most popular in terms of content produced about it. So some people probably picked Codex just because they don't want to be like everyone else. Then they obviously have to talk down about Claude, because if Codex is not better, then they are not. Simple.

And from my POV that's not a good thing because HN was the place where people didn't act like this. It was pragmatism and honest debate.

Now it's becoming: my agent is better than X, my stack is better than Y...

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by nerdsniper »

preommr wrote: post #158
gizmodo59 wrote: post #76

Anthropic is getting extremely petty and especially against oai - ad in superbowl about how they are the good guys. - dow public PR stunt (they are the ones to give Palantir their model access). - sues openclaw. - threatens every use of cc in oss community. - prevents other companies using claude saying they cant use when they compete. - never released a single open weight model. - Dario told OAI is Yolo'ing in compu…

> dow I was wondering what the Dow jones stock index thing was... It took me a minute, but I am guessing this means department of war? It feels strange to see terminology evolve like this over my lifetime. At first I thought this might've been a 'freedom fries' thing, but I guess it's pretty official now.

It's not official. It's literally the same thing as 'freedom fries'. The executive branch can't rename the Department of Defense, only Congress can, and they haven't. The instant Trump leaves office, the only people who will still refer to it as the DoW will be die-hard 'Trumpers'.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by gneray »

CityOfThrowaway wrote: post #164
shimman wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only people "relying" on this are other startups whose VC benefactors force them to use other products under their portfolio in order to goose up their numbers.

I've raised venture from a lot of the big firms (and a lot of small firms) and have never had any of them attempt to force me to use anything.

+1

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by ipaddr »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #76

Anthropic is getting extremely petty and especially against oai - ad in superbowl about how they are the good guys. - dow public PR stunt (they are the ones to give Palantir their model access). - sues openclaw. - threatens every use of cc in oss community. - prevents other companies using claude saying they cant use when they compete. - never released a single open weight model. - Dario told OAI is Yolo'ing in compu…

I can live with those but not their token cost.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by [deleted] »

smrtinsert wrote: post #165
atomicthumbs wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hundreds of companies rely on Stainless to generate SDKs, CLIs, and MCP servers—the libraries, command-line tools, and connectors that let developers and agents use an API." not anymore lol

what is the value in destroying those relationships? I assume it was acquisition to defend against another company owning a key part of their delivery pipeline, but killing the public product is just bad press.

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Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by orliesaurus »

I don't understand why they would buy this company?

Was stainless doing great? Was stainless doing not great? Did they just want to hire some extra skilled engineers? Did they hire them so OpenAI's SDKs are gonna have a setback?

Mmmh

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by windexh8er »

atomicthumbs wrote: post #32
drewda wrote: post #15

> As we focus on Claude Platform capabilities and connecting agents to APIs, we’ll be winding down all hosted Stainless products, including our SDK generator. Starting today, new signups, projects, and SDKs will not be available. For better or worse, it's an acquihire.

"Hundreds of companies rely on Stainless to generate SDKs, CLIs, and MCP servers—the libraries, command-line tools, and connectors that let developers and agents use an API." not anymore lol

I'm waiting for the Enterprise space to wise up. For anyone who's ever worked with any reasonably large company as a vendor (especially a small one) you know how painful redlines in legal can be. Why TF haven't enterprise made it more painful for these events? Basically state that if the service is purchased/sold/shuttered prior to the contract expiry date that a significant penalty (e.g. full refund) is required and including some portion of investment made to onboard said service/product/tool.

I can't even imagine the money wasted on turn-and-burns in the F1000 alone. The US needs a wake up call with respect to consumer / buyer protections. The life of the snake oil salesman is plentiful these days, and you have a lot of AI-psychotic executives who can't seem to get enough.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by lapusta »

benesch wrote: post #69
arjvik wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have an account but my colleauges do as my company uses the platform. By self-service, do you mean that the SDK generators are now source-available so they can be run by end users locally?

Yes, that’s right.

I don't think the generators themselves were open-sourced (only the generated SDKs were already open-source). That leaves three main (recommended) options:

* Manual Maintenance: Returning to the pre-Stainless era.

* Agentic Coding: Works to an extent, but you lose the deterministic, review-free output required to keep an SDK perfectly structured and coherent.

* Open-source Generators: Helpful for basic use cases, but they lack Stainless's full-stack features like multi-language generation and publishing, MCPs, and documentation.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by BeetleB »

nicce wrote: post #168
urams wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be noted that this user is basically an OAI shill account. You can look through their history to see this quite clearly. Anecdata, but I have a friend at OAI who claims that on both twitter and HN there is mild coordination of OAI employees to signal boost pro-OAI and anti-competitor messaging.

Does it matter? What of their claims were false? You should undo the claims, not attack the account.

The deeper issue is that the comment isn't adding anything to the conversation. It's simply a list of criticisms about Anthropic. If it were an analysis of why this acquisition is so bad, I'd agree with your stance. But the only thing the comment appears to do is try to make them look bad.
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