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Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by tinyhouse »

urams wrote: post #116
gizmodo59 wrote: post #76

Anthropic is getting extremely petty and especially against oai - ad in superbowl about how they are the good guys. - dow public PR stunt (they are the ones to give Palantir their model access). - sues openclaw. - threatens every use of cc in oss community. - prevents other companies using claude saying they cant use when they compete. - never released a single open weight model. - Dario told OAI is Yolo'ing in compu…

It should be noted that this user is basically an OAI shill account. You can look through their history to see this quite clearly. Anecdata, but I have a friend at OAI who claims that on both twitter and HN there is mild coordination of OAI employees to signal boost pro-OAI and anti-competitor messaging.

OpenAI and Anthropic are both private companies with lots of individual investors such as employees, secondary-market buyers, and so on, who stand to become multi-millionaires. So most of what you read about them here is probably colored by someone's financial interests. Not that it's gonna make a difference, but people are just being people.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by jviotti »

I'm finding these acquisitions (or acquihire?) are interesting. First Bun, and then Stainless. It's almost like Anthropic wanted to acquire every company that develops foundational technology that they themselves use.

Assuming they bet on Claude getting much better at coding over time, couldn't they themselves cover their own needs with technology that they built themselves?

Is some sort of autonomy over technology they use somehow the goal here?

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by solenoid0937 »

jrsj wrote: post #124
urams wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be noted that this user is basically an OAI shill account. You can look through their history to see this quite clearly. Anecdata, but I have a friend at OAI who claims that on both twitter and HN there is mild coordination of OAI employees to signal boost pro-OAI and anti-competitor messaging.

It’s gotten better within the last month or so but historically there’s been an excessive amount of anti-OAI and pro-Anthropic activity on this site as well and I’ve seen numerous posts get downvoted and almost instantly flagged for calling this out more politely than you have here. So at least anecdotally I really don’t think it’s fair to portray this as OAI doing some sort of social media psyop as if others aren’t…

IDK if I'd call it "better."

HN did a massive 180 in the last month or two, and nearly every post or comment related to Anthropic is just a hate post.

The amount of anger against Anthropic on HN doesn't reflect anything I see in reality (and I work at a pretty big FAANG with Codex and Claude Code, both are great) so I do suspect that OAI is doing some guerrilla marketing here, while Anthropic isn't really marketing or doing PR at all.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by gen220 »

drewda wrote: post #15

> As we focus on Claude Platform capabilities and connecting agents to APIs, we’ll be winding down all hosted Stainless products, including our SDK generator. Starting today, new signups, projects, and SDKs will not be available. For better or worse, it's an acquihire.

Wow, OpenAI is a stainless customer right?

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by solenoid0937 »

jrsj wrote: post #132
solenoid0937 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not pretend that any company will keep unsustainable limits forever. You can go to codex for free compute; they will enshittify the moment they build a meaningful lead over their competitors After seeing the whole internet being enshittified I'm still shocked people don't see through these very transparent tactics that every tech company has employed since 2012 or so.

This is true of course and I don’t think these heavily subsidized plans will be around forever, but at the same time OpenAI is just less compute constrained than Anthropic right now as well so they’re in a stronger position to be able to offer these subsidies. GPT models are also generally more token efficient right now and that helps too — you can go a lot further on a $20 subscription with Codex than Claude Code as…

Ever since limits were doubled I never really ran into them on Claude code, but I get where you're coming from.

Personally if I don't need a frontier model I use a local LLM. Or one of the Chinese ones through OpenRouter.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by xvector »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #76

Anthropic is getting extremely petty and especially against oai - ad in superbowl about how they are the good guys. - dow public PR stunt (they are the ones to give Palantir their model access). - sues openclaw. - threatens every use of cc in oss community. - prevents other companies using claude saying they cant use when they compete. - never released a single open weight model. - Dario told OAI is Yolo'ing in compu…

For some reason I don't see you calling OAI petty when they donated $20M to Trump & worked a secret deal with Hegseth to usurp Anthropic and erase the red lines they had in place.

Starting a race to the bottom where every AI company agrees to "all lawful use" such as mass domestic surveillance and fully autonomous weapons, probably increasing p(doom) by some amount.

All to stick it to Anthropic. That's not petty to you?

To me it is an order of magnitude bigger than all of the stuff you've described. I suspect some people here just work for OAI.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by whimsicalism »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #76

Anthropic is getting extremely petty and especially against oai - ad in superbowl about how they are the good guys. - dow public PR stunt (they are the ones to give Palantir their model access). - sues openclaw. - threatens every use of cc in oss community. - prevents other companies using claude saying they cant use when they compete. - never released a single open weight model. - Dario told OAI is Yolo'ing in compu…

Curious - are you affiliated with OpenAI?

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by b65e8bee43c2ed0 »

shimman wrote: post #134
embedding-shape wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's WILD is people ending up relying on these essentially startup-slops that just serves to give you future technical debt once you have to eventually moved away because they got acquired by $INSERT_BAD_GUY_OF_THE_MONTH

The only people "relying" on this are other startups whose VC benefactors force them to use other products under their portfolio in order to goose up their numbers.

that makes so much sense. I always wondered how the fuck did all those ZIRP era "hello world as a service" bullshit startups have any customers at all.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by deaton »

dgellow wrote: post #88
deaton wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tale as old as the word "startup" even. Uber/Lyft did it with taxis. DoorDash did it with food delivery. You run at a loss for years while destroying your legacy competition by just outlasting them, then once you have cornered the market you squeeze.

I understand the cynism but it’s not the case here. Stainless isn't a case of blitzscaling or running a loss for years to destroy the competition. The motto of the company is polished and robust and we invested a lot into generating what we think are the highest quality SDKs available. We could have shipped things way, way faster if the focus on design and quality wasn’t such an essential part of the development proc…

No but Anthropic and OpenAI are very much trying to use their positions to destroy everyone's ability to do things without their product, make AI essential, and then jack prices. Thats the only way this becomes profitable.
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