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Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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> Schmidt urged graduates to embrace freedom, open debate, equality and the willingness to engage with those they disagree with. I think it was a great embrace of freedom and open debate to boo him for only asserting predictions that benefit him.

Shouting people down isn’t “open debate”.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

Actual generous interpretation: The adaptation required as workplaces adopt AI is the same as the ones immigrants have to go through in a new country. There's new modes of thinking, new workflows and an expanded surface of responsibility. Those that expect an easy definable role they can plug themselves into, to get the comfortable jobs (tm) of yesterday will not find those readily. They are there though, they just look different. The working immigrant (usually) doesn't find a spot for them to plug into, they have to hustle and adapt to find such a spot.

Corporate bosses have been screaming for more "hustle-y" employees for decades so that is nothing new.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Tons of CEOs right now keep saying “young people need to learn how to use AI to be successful” and also “we aren’t planning to hire any new college grads due to AI”.. so which one is it.. seems everybody understands the super pro AI CEOs want to lay off nearly the entire company and run it on skeleton crew with a ton of AI and get ultra rich. While “some other” companies should totally hire lots of young people but n…

> run it on skeleton crew with a ton of AI and get ultra rich... I don't get people who believe this. Why would an AI company provide a service that someone can sell at 10x the price, mostly unchanged? Why wouldn't the AI company sell it directly?

Wholesale vs retail. I think the highest value, biggest markets will have products straight from the AI labs (ie legal review) but there's a lot of "last mile" type stuff that it's probably not as economical for anthropic to care about but maybe for some other company.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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post #55

> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

It's a pretty classic move. "My political party stands for freedom and prosperity; you can't be against those things, can you?"

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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I need you to understand that if you actually believe this, normal people think you are an evil lunatic.

You asked for an optimistic case and he gave you one. One thing I really like about LLMs is that they don't engage in this type of petty deceit where they ask a question and then insult you for answering.

This is not an “optimistic case.” This is faith-based airhead nonsense. I want to understand:

- If the people working on AI actually believe they’re building a God

- If so, why do they believe that

- If not, is there some optimistic case for LLMs based on something I don’t understand

What I got was “yes we are building a God, and despite all available evidence, it will be great! I promise!”

This is the language and behavior of a cult. If this is the actual optimist case, this entire train needs to be derailed yesterday.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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post #191
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> Schmidt urged graduates to embrace freedom, open debate, equality and the willingness to engage with those they disagree with. I think it was a great embrace of freedom and open debate to boo him for only asserting predictions that benefit him.

Shouting people down isn’t “open debate”.

AI promotional strategies are profoundly and uniquely illiberal.

AI leaders are not interested in open debate and they have demonstrated this again and again.

Shouting this person down is the appropriate, humane response.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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It's not clear to me why they booed him. you think for only asserting predictions that benefit him? Not because they agree on those predictions and don't want that future, blame him for this role in it?

I think it's not clear to him either why he was booed.

He should ask Claude what it thinks

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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this is how i took it as well. he’s creating a false equivalency between AI and immigrants, and attempting to justify it with “diversity of perspectives” and trying to tell you that to remain intellectually consistent you must embrace or reject both.

I agree. I think it's telling that AI leaders need to rely on fallacious reasoning and trickery to promote their product. A good product should sell itself. I feel that AI leaders have been shoving their product down our throats for the last two years (at least).

It's important to realize that those people are sociopaths. They delight in the suffering of the common man through their complete lack of empathy.

Also, just because they are very good at climbing the corporate ladder (which is a skill on its own), it doesn't necessarily translate to them being particularly smart on fields beyond their expertise.

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