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Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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"the irony reads" isn't even grammatically correct.

Should be OK (besides the lack of irony!). Easier for me to show with another noun, comedy: "You HAVE to buy her novel ASAP! Sure, the comedy reads a bit acerbically at first, but chapter two through to the end is literary perfection."

Or alternatively, with another verb: 'the irony seems to have gone unnoticed'.

Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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WHERE DO I BUY ONE? This is not a joke. The prime thing that keeps me driving my old vehicle is my avoidance of modern corporate totalitarianism in tracked vehicles, spying, and other crap. I'm not buying something just to rent it too. I would pay above-market. I'm researching this right now. Maybe I've finally found my new car.

There are dealerships out of California selling new and used stock.

Edit: changed to present tense. Searching Google shopping for the model shows the locations and prices.

Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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Funfact4life, even with modern cars in emergency braking scenarios you _still_ want to STAND on that brake pedal with all your weight! ...ooh, a mnemonic: "STOMP, STAY and STEER". (Stomp brake, Stay stomped, Steer around obstacles while pressing brake hard.) Even if it vibrates! [Grand]pa had to "pump" his brakes (on/off/on/off), we have it easier :)

> Steer around obstacles while pressing brake hard That seems like a good way to flip a car or truck. Also runs counter to the advice that's given for surviving a sudden kangaroo on road at night incident .. for the past 60+ years. eg: Don’t swerve Most severe crashes involving an animal occur when the driver veers off the road, and hits something else instead. What’s more, the animal is just as likely to flee in the…

I believe Barbing is saying to start braking and if you haven't stopped when you reach the obstacle, to keep the brake pressed hard while steering around it. That said, it's also important to manage wheel and/or brake lock-up if either happens.

Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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sure, but there's still actual journalism behind it. Isn't the primary objection to ai slop is that it's just vapid regurgitation? I've been reading electrek for years, they're generally pretty decent journalists. If the author here is doing the interview, getting the notes together, doing the research and then has a system prompt of the voice of the publication and says "generate", do we still say slop? Personally I…

> most people don't yell about synthesizers not being real music any more. I think a lot more effort is required to release (popular) music, and I'm only hearing 'independent' music at concert venues which also require a lot of effort. It doesn't take a lot of effort to transform the raw materials of journalism, which you cite, into a finished product outside the process of writing and sitting with your thoughts. And…

If you cannot tell if the work is poorly done or not, why it matters if it's AI or not?

The reason many of us dislike AI slop is because it's very evidently AI slop, if you cannot tell, then I wouldn't even say it's AI slop, maybe AI assisted if anything, but matters less if the content itself actually doesn't suck.

Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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> most people don't yell about synthesizers not being real music any more. I think a lot more effort is required to release (popular) music, and I'm only hearing 'independent' music at concert venues which also require a lot of effort. It doesn't take a lot of effort to transform the raw materials of journalism, which you cite, into a finished product outside the process of writing and sitting with your thoughts. And…

If you cannot tell if the work is poorly done or not, why it matters if it's AI or not? The reason many of us dislike AI slop is because it's very evidently AI slop, if you cannot tell, then I wouldn't even say it's AI slop, maybe AI assisted if anything, but matters less if the content itself actually doesn't suck.

I was unclear - I can tell that there was an AI involved in writing readily.

In music, it's hard to make a convincing AI product (at the moment) because editing sound is challenging.

In journalism, it's easy to make AI articles and relatively easy to edit them not to sound like AI. So if someone isn't doing that minimal work, I wonder what other things they're taking the easy route for.

Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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> We had reviewed the Ocean in late 2023 and found the hardware genuinely attractive — but the software was simply not ready for prime time. The irony of that headline — “Coming soon, in a future software update” — now reads like an epitaph. Those future updates never came from Fisker. They came from the owners themselves. It’s sad to see a good site put out bad AI writing like this.

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Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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> We had reviewed the Ocean in late 2023 and found the hardware genuinely attractive — but the software was simply not ready for prime time. The irony of that headline — “Coming soon, in a future software update” — now reads like an epitaph. Those future updates never came from Fisker. They came from the owners themselves. It’s sad to see a good site put out bad AI writing like this.

"the irony reads" isn't even grammatically correct.

I think it's human - coherent ideas, grammar errors. AI tends to do correct grammar, muddled ideas.

Re: Fisker went bankrupt and owners built an open source car company from the ashes

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"the irony reads" isn't even grammatically correct.

I think it's human - coherent ideas, grammar errors. AI tends to do correct grammar, muddled ideas.

I would guess it’s an AI foundation with some human tweaks that introduced errors.
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