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Why does that seem contradictory? Gaza can be the aggressor, but Israel is much better armed. (Don't confuse shipping with getting by truck; they don't receive supplies by ship, but they do get plenty of supplies.)
Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?
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They get text messages, leaflets, recorded phone calls and 'roof knocks' warning them to stay away from the military equipment Israel are targeting.
But sadly, as Gaza is extremely populated, they sometimes don't have anywhere to go...
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> And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza. Actually, those aren't blocked. Well, unless you consider missiles to be humanitarian aid. Should they just let Iran ship weapons into Gaza to be used against Israeli civilians?
Are you quite sure all of them were missiles? http://blog.amnestyusa.org/middle-east/israeli-naval-force-b... http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/suffocating-gaza-... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/world/middleeast/11nations...
The flotilla organizers refused this offer. Their purpose was not to deliver humanitarian aid, but to cause a spectacle drawing attention to the security restrictions imposed on the Strip.
Once the flotilla was diverted and the contents were unloaded and placed on Israeli trucks to be transferred to the Gaza Strip, Hamas refused to accept it. This humanitarian aid was apparently so urgently needed that Hamas decided they didn't want to lose face by accepting it.
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Why does that seem contradictory? Gaza can be the aggressor, but Israel is much better armed. (Don't confuse shipping with getting by truck; they don't receive supplies by ship, but they do get plenty of supplies.)
Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?
People entitle themselves to land for no logical reason; nobody thinks: "This country haves 40 million people an there is 7.053 billion people in the world; therefore we should only own a 176.325th of the available terrain"; never happens.
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Please take your propaganda elsewhere. HN is not the place for it.
When you agree with it, it's an honest opinion. When you disagree with it, it's propaganda?
But given the number (and impact) of pro-IDF groups whose explicit goal is to control the online Israel-Palestine debate through propaganda, stuff like this is particularly tiring. Every time conflict breaks out a bunch of kids start spamming unrelated forums with their crap.
Edit: Note that I'm not claiming the other side is innocent of this behavior, it may just be that I notice the Israeli stuff more/hang out on forums more prone to being exposed to them.
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Why does that seem contradictory? Gaza can be the aggressor, but Israel is much better armed. (Don't confuse shipping with getting by truck; they don't receive supplies by ship, but they do get plenty of supplies.)
Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?
Let's say we have a dispute. You say I stole your house, and I say I didn't. Do you think a good way to resolve the dispute is to take pot-shots at my kids? Does it make it a better idea to take pot-shots if I have a machine gun and you don't?
As far as I can tell, defending Hamas is just insane, even if you really, really think Palestinians are abused by Israelis.
In other news, Israeli citizens are also under attack. I made http://irondomecount.com yesterday for people to follow along and http://lifeunderfire.com to understand what it feels like.
I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor. While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.
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Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?
"Their land"... if there is something that the Palestina and Israel conflict has remembered us is that nobody owns anything that they can't defend. The Americans killed the natives and then future generations don't think that it matters because they weren't directly involved in that; the same thing happens in this conflict that haves already many years in the making. People entitle themselves to land for no logical r…
What is the point of civilisation if it fails to prevent suffering?
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Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?
You are really changing the subject from aggression, but... Let's say we have a dispute. You say I stole your house, and I say I didn't. Do you think a good way to resolve the dispute is to take pot-shots at my kids? Does it make it a better idea to take pot-shots if I have a machine gun and you don't? As far as I can tell, defending Hamas is just insane , even if you really, really think Palestinians are abused by I…