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Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by three14 »

runn1ng wrote: post #7
benjlang wrote: post #2

In other news, Israeli citizens are also under attack. I made http://irondomecount.com yesterday for people to follow along and http://lifeunderfire.com to understand what it feels like.

I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor. While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Why does that seem contradictory? Gaza can be the aggressor, but Israel is much better armed. (Don't confuse shipping with getting by truck; they don't receive supplies by ship, but they do get plenty of supplies.)

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by [deleted] »

maratd wrote: post #9
runn1ng wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor. While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

> And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza. Actually, those aren't blocked. Well, unless you consider missiles to be humanitarian aid. Should they just let Iran ship weapons into Gaza to be used against Israeli civilians?

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Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

#14

Post by aes256 »

jahansafd wrote: post #6
benjlang wrote: post #2

In other news, Israeli citizens are also under attack. I made http://irondomecount.com yesterday for people to follow along and http://lifeunderfire.com to understand what it feels like.

I like what you're doing with lifeunderfire.com. I wonder if the other side gets a 15 seconds heads up too.

They get text messages, leaflets, recorded phone calls and 'roof knocks' warning them to stay away from the military equipment Israel are targeting.

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by pooriaazimi »

maratd wrote: post #9
runn1ng wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor. While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

> And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza. Actually, those aren't blocked. Well, unless you consider missiles to be humanitarian aid. Should they just let Iran ship weapons into Gaza to be used against Israeli civilians?

Are you quite sure all of them were missiles?

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/middle-east/israeli-naval-force-b...

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/suffocating-gaza-...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/world/middleeast/11nations...

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by pooriaazimi »

aes256 wrote: post #14
jahansafd wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like what you're doing with lifeunderfire.com. I wonder if the other side gets a 15 seconds heads up too.

They get text messages, leaflets, recorded phone calls and 'roof knocks' warning them to stay away from the military equipment Israel are targeting.

But sadly, as Gaza is extremely populated, they sometimes don't have anywhere to go...

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by noamsml »

easong wrote: post #8
benjlang wrote: post #2

In other news, Israeli citizens are also under attack. I made http://irondomecount.com yesterday for people to follow along and http://lifeunderfire.com to understand what it feels like.

Please take your propaganda elsewhere. HN is not the place for it.

When you agree with it, it's an honest opinion. When you disagree with it, it's propaganda?

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by maratd »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #15
maratd wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza. Actually, those aren't blocked. Well, unless you consider missiles to be humanitarian aid. Should they just let Iran ship weapons into Gaza to be used against Israeli civilians?

Are you quite sure all of them were missiles? http://blog.amnestyusa.org/middle-east/israeli-naval-force-b... http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/suffocating-gaza-... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/world/middleeast/11nations...

Expecting perfection from a process largely performed by human beings is ridiculous. Of course there were legitimate shipments that were blocked by mistake and of course, there were those who were rightfully pissed when that happened.

I am sure that if no missiles were being brought into Gaza or if those missiles weren't used for killing Israeli civilians, there would be no blockade of anything.

What do you expect the Israelis to do? Just die? Oh wait, that is what you expect them to do.

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by antihero »

three14 wrote: post #11
runn1ng wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor. While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Why does that seem contradictory? Gaza can be the aggressor, but Israel is much better armed. (Don't confuse shipping with getting by truck; they don't receive supplies by ship, but they do get plenty of supplies.)

Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?

Re: Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack

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Post by helgy »

runn1ng wrote: post #7
benjlang wrote: post #2

In other news, Israeli citizens are also under attack. I made http://irondomecount.com yesterday for people to follow along and http://lifeunderfire.com to understand what it feels like.

I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor. While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

That's trivial to understand though. Hamas doesn't give a shit about Palestinian people. They are fanatics, why would they? Most of their weapons including medium range missiles is stored in civilian homes, mosques or other public places that less likely to be targeted. As a bonus points if such storage gets hit it's a breaking news for reporters who love to write stories about "Israel bombed mosque, 9000 children are killed".
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