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Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by xantronix »

999900000999 wrote: post #38
nialse wrote: post #8

I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.

This is the new normal. AI will continue to reduce the need for human workers until a Universal Basic Income is established. At the end of the day robots can do the vast vast majority of jobs better and faster. If not now, very soon. I only worry our economic systems won’t keep up

Because of the concerns you cite, I think working out the basic economic systems and incentives for paying people is a much more pressing concern than building magnificent machinery that we don't even own. There has been no effort on their end to demonstrate good faith nor to uphold their end of the social contract, which is why it's in our hands to demand the fundamentals to lead a life of dignity.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by bayindirh »

Terr_ wrote: post #83
bayindirh wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was talking with a friend in the early days of AI boom. I argued that over-reliance in AI will create all kinds of catastrophes. The answer I got is "It's game theory. Someone will do it, and you'll be forced to do it, too. It can't be that bad". I mean, yes, logic is useful, but ignorance of risks? Assuming that moving blazingly fast and pulverizing things will result in good eventually? This AI thing is not progr…

> The answer I got is "It's game theory. Someone will do it, and you'll be forced to do it, too. It can't be that bad". Oof. Potential "bad" outcomes of "game theory" should be calibrated to include all the bloody wars and genocides throughout recorded history. Why did the Foi-ites kill every man, woman and child of the conquered Bar-ite city? Because if they didn't, then they'd be at a disadvantage if the Bar-ites d…

Yeah, I know. I had counter arguments more targeted towards his thinking style, but he preferred to think straight like a machine, in a bad way.

The problem was not him, but the fact that the number of people who thinks like him. They may word it in a more benign form, but the idea is the same.

So obsessed with being the first mover and winning the battle, never thinking whether they should, or what would happen with that scenario.

Missing the whole forest and beyond for a single branch of a single tree.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by 9dev »

hansmayer wrote: post #50
9dev wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to draw that line of argument - it's more like horse riders being convinced to give up their horses in favour of trains: You're travelling faster, don't have to navigate yourself, or think about every boulder on the way; but there are destinations you can't go, overcrowded trains slowing down the journey, hefty ticket prices, and instead of enjoying the freedom, you're degraded to a passive passenger.

Very funny, this. Did we need forward deployed engineers to convince people that they absolutely need to use the trains in order to "not be left behind"? Or otherwise hype? Or was it sort of obvious and did not need to explained so much - like a bad joke called LLMs ?

Actually- absolutely! Initially, people were really afraid of trains, fearing they wouldn’t be able to breathe at those speeds. It took a lot of convincing to establish trust in the technology.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by kakugawa »

Utkarsh_Mood wrote: post #84
kakugawa wrote: post #63

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He uses AI himself, so I agree he doesn't see AI use as black/white. Hard agree about ideas, thinking, advice. AI's sycophancy is a huge subtle problem. I've tried my best to create a system prompt to guard against this w/ Opus 4.7. It doesn't adhere to it 100% of the time and the longer the conversation goes, the worse the sycophancy gets (because the system instructions become weaker and weaker). I have to actively…

share the prompt!

https://claude.ai/settings/general (Instructions for Claude)

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Treat my claims as hypotheses, not decisions. Before agreeing with a proposed change, state the strongest case against it. Ask what evidence a change is based on before evaluating it. Distinguish tactical observations from strategic commitments — don't silently promote one to the other. If you paraphrase my proposal, name what you changed. Mark confidence explicitly: guessing / fairly sure / well-established. Give reasoning and evidence for claims, not just conclusions. Flag what would change your mind. Rank concerns by cost-of-being-wrong; lead with the highest-stakes ones. Say hard things plainly, then soften if needed — not the other way around. For drafting, brainstorming, or casual questions, ease off and match the task.

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Beware though that it can be an annoying little shit w/ this prompt. Prepare yourself emotionally, because you are explicitly making the tradeoff that it will be annoyingly pedantic, and in return it will lessen (not eliminate) its sycophancy. These system instructions are not fool-proof, but they help (at the start of the conversation, at least).

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by bayindirh »

Sharlin wrote: post #90
bayindirh wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was talking with a friend in the early days of AI boom. I argued that over-reliance in AI will create all kinds of catastrophes. The answer I got is "It's game theory. Someone will do it, and you'll be forced to do it, too. It can't be that bad". I mean, yes, logic is useful, but ignorance of risks? Assuming that moving blazingly fast and pulverizing things will result in good eventually? This AI thing is not progr…

An interesting ethical framework, your friend has.

"Interesting" is a very brave and British way to put it, but yeah.

Let's say I'm polar opposite of them, and we're on the same page with you.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by Sharlin »

999900000999 wrote: post #38
nialse wrote: post #8

I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.

This is the new normal. AI will continue to reduce the need for human workers until a Universal Basic Income is established. At the end of the day robots can do the vast vast majority of jobs better and faster. If not now, very soon. I only worry our economic systems won’t keep up

I think that’s called "hopium". Or wishful thinking, in less trendy language.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by techpression »

risyachka wrote: post #59
999900000999 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the new normal. AI will continue to reduce the need for human workers until a Universal Basic Income is established. At the end of the day robots can do the vast vast majority of jobs better and faster. If not now, very soon. I only worry our economic systems won’t keep up

Humans can already have 4 hour work week without productivity loss. But I only see mass layoffs and those who are working - are working longer and harder then before.

Most CEOs in my feed are convinced that AI makes people the equivalent of entire departments. AI should make your life easier, but instead it’s the opposite for a lot of people in the work force, which makes me really sad.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by Terr_ »

klashn wrote: post #74

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I think you're mixing up "psychosis" with fads, trends, or perhaps executive excuses to do layoffs.

A feature of psychosis is being unable to distinguish between external ideas and internal ones. For example, if a brown-nosing Yes-Man machine keeps reflecting your own leading questions back at you, laundering them into "independent" wisdom.

In contrast, I'm pretty sure COVID and the invasion of Ukraine are actual external phenomena that affect businesses and economies.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by autoexec »

teddyh wrote: post #53
andreasgl wrote: post #2

https://xcancel.com/mitchellh/status/2055380239711457578

https://twiiit.com/mitchellh/status/2055380239711457578 > – will redirect to a currently-working Nitter instance.

Seems broken. It just throws up an anime cat girl for me.
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