Good for these news corps , bad for consumers. Free News websites almost 100% consist of ads trash .
The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
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Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tired of this overregulation Why ? When the alternative is to let companies to whatever makes the number go up at the expense of everyone else, regulation is the only thing to protect normal people.
You are not protecting "normal people". These types of laws are nothing but attempts at rent seeking by dying legacy media companies that were too incompetent to figure out working digital strategies on their own. And they would already be dead without the traffic that big platforms like Meta and Google are sending their way. If you send traffic to some e-commerce platform through an affiliate link, you are the one w…
>If you send traffic to some e-commerce platform through an affiliate link, you are the one who gets paid. These companies are instead trying to rig the system in such a way that the affiliate would be forced to pay them. It's an absurd and desperate proposal that deserves to be rejected.
This isn't what is happening. People read the summarized headline/article on meta's turf and then don't go to the source article. If meta were just posting the link, it would be fine, but that isn't what is happening here.
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
#23It so nice to see megacorps not being allowed to whatever they like as in the US. The EU has regulations and standards. If you don't follow them you can't just try to sue the body. Just follow the rules like you're supposed to. It's quite simply really.
You certainly can sue: "The ruling comes after Meta sued Italy’s national telecommunications regulatory agency (AGCOM) in Italian court in 2023"; that's the normal process for disputing regulatory rulings. Doesn't mean you'll win though. I'm very much in two minds about this because "news" is not a morally neutral category in itself, such as with similar laws benefiting News Corp in Australia, but it's clear that Met…
I'm also not happy that news organizations get special exceptions. It is very easy to construct cynical motives:
- Politicians need the news so journalists are protected.
- If news organizations get paid, they have no incentive to be AI critical.
The article says that "news are vital". So is open source, films, images, art, and the authors do not get paid by the thieves.
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
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Why not? We the posters are providing free content and views and exposure for a VC fund worth billions of dollars. Why are we not getting kickbacks?
Because you're doing it voluntarily.
Agree. But, sadly, we live in a world in which so often what is obvious needs to be stated.
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
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Why not? We the posters are providing free content and views and exposure for a VC fund worth billions of dollars. Why are we not getting kickbacks?
Because you're doing it voluntarily.
Did I hallucinate several years of discourse about volunteer work on the internet should be paid? And that lefty types were yelling about how billionaire corps should compensate volunteer work because they clearly had money?
Something starting from Reddit mods?
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
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You certainly can sue: "The ruling comes after Meta sued Italy’s national telecommunications regulatory agency (AGCOM) in Italian court in 2023"; that's the normal process for disputing regulatory rulings. Doesn't mean you'll win though. I'm very much in two minds about this because "news" is not a morally neutral category in itself, such as with similar laws benefiting News Corp in Australia, but it's clear that Met…
I'm also not happy that news organizations get special exceptions. It is very easy to construct cynical motives: - Politicians need the news so journalists are protected. - If news organizations get paid, they have no incentive to be AI critical. The article says that "news are vital". So is open source, films, images, art, and the authors do not get paid by the thieves.
> The article says that "news are vital". So is open source, films, images, art, and the authors do not get paid by the thieves.
"Vital" does not merely mean "important".
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
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Why do they show Italian news before? Because it makes them money.
Canada passed a similar bill a few years ago causing meta to stop showing Canadian news content on their platforms. It didn’t really impact them financially or user wise. So the same thing will probably happen in Italy.
Canadian news might've been easier to replace with American news outlets due to the deep ties between the two and the shared language. I doubt this would be the case for Italian news.
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
#28Good for these news corps , bad for consumers. Free News websites almost 100% consist of ads trash .
Isn’t Facebook just as full of ads that can’t even be blocked by uBO? When I log into the FB account I haven’t really been using in more than a decade, it’s 99% “sponsored” stuff, ads and reels. Really I could scroll through pages and pages of things I never chose to have in my feed before I see any post from a friend.
At least on a news website I get to read just the news and can block the ads.
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
#29It so nice to see megacorps not being allowed to whatever they like as in the US. The EU has regulations and standards. If you don't follow them you can't just try to sue the body. Just follow the rules like you're supposed to. It's quite simply really.
They already did this with Canada. Meta decided to stop showing news links in Canada. [1] Presumably, it would choose the same thing here. [1] https://www.facebook.com/sureshsingaratnam/posts/so-meta-is-...
I am not a facebook user, but going by that post they seem to go a step further and outright block any links pointing to news sites. The article mentions some provisions in the Italian law that prohibit restricting visiblity of the news sites, at least during negotiations, so that kind of salted earth move could backfire .
Re: The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news
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I'm also not happy that news organizations get special exceptions. It is very easy to construct cynical motives: - Politicians need the news so journalists are protected. - If news organizations get paid, they have no incentive to be AI critical. The article says that "news are vital". So is open source, films, images, art, and the authors do not get paid by the thieves.
> The article says that "news are vital". So is open source, films, images, art, and the authors do not get paid by the thieves. "Vital" does not merely mean "important".
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