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Claude for Small Business

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Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by mystifyingpoi »

falcor84 wrote: post #27
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an inconsequential competition because both are giving away products that are somewhere between non-functional and barely-functional while torching a mountain of borrowed money. Both will go bankrupt if not bailed out by the government.

I don't know what frustrations you have, but the impact of Claude (and particularly Claude Code) on my productivity over the last year has been astronomical. If there wasn't this fierce competition, and I had to pay 10 times as much, I still gladly would.

> and I had to pay 10 times as much, I still gladly would

That narration will make it become the reality at some point. Stop it please.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by wiseowise »

falcor84 wrote: post #39
rohansood15 wrote: post #32

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How do you define your productivity? Are you astronomically richer and/or freer now that you're so much more productive?

No, not yet astronomically richer. I'm working on it, but a part of the reason why I haven't yet broken all my bones from repeatedly diving into a pool of money is The Red Queen's Race. With how much easier it is to write code and realize your vision, coupled with how jaded we've all become, the bar is just much higher. But I'm pretty certain that if I had this sort of capability even just 3 years ago, and others did…

> 3 years ago, and others didn't, I would have been like a Kryptonian under a yellow sun.

And what exactly would’ve changed three years ago compared to now?

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by safety1st »

nicce wrote: post #95
ageitgey wrote: post #90

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> that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user That's what they aim Claude Cowork at. Every executive/leader I've shown Claude Cowork to has gone from 'what is AI' to 'vibecoding whole apps' in weeks. Then when Claude is down for an hour, they get visibly angry and don't remember how to do anything pre-Claude :) I understand the impulse to provide a UI to manage codebases, etc. But my observation is…

> Then when Claude is down for an hour, they get visibly angry and don't remember how to do anything pre-Claude :) The drug is scary when everyone is depending on it. I wonder what is future like.

Seems far less scary to me than, say, building an electrical grid in a cold climate, where if it fails for a few days people start to die. Oh wait...

Re: Claude for Small Business

#104

Post by wiseowise »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #44
falcor84 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not yet astronomically richer. I'm working on it, but a part of the reason why I haven't yet broken all my bones from repeatedly diving into a pool of money is The Red Queen's Race. With how much easier it is to write code and realize your vision, coupled with how jaded we've all become, the bar is just much higher. But I'm pretty certain that if I had this sort of capability even just 3 years ago, and others did…

The bar is on the floor. Not that I can objectively prove it, but it is my strong belief software quality has gotten worse since LLMs started being mandated in enterprises, eg. Windows has began shipping critical issues in updates more often. The vibe motherships themselves certainly don't inspire confidence. ChatGPT for Desktop (which is simply the chat interface in an electron window) doesn't have tabs and yet in a…

> ChatGPT for Desktop (which is simply the chat interface in an electron window) doesn't have tabs and yet in an hour of chatting was at the point where it was consuming 2.5gb of memory. In a single tab, remember, because providing tabs is an impossible feat that no human or robot could possibly think to provide -- who would possibly want to ask questions about two different subjects, anyways?

Don’t worry, they maintain feature parity between desktop and web. It routinely consumes 2GB in my browser for some reason.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by Hamuko »

CSMastermind wrote: post #53

I'm increasingly convinced that there's a killer app waiting for whoever can come up with a UI that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user. Onboarding my non-software engineer teammates to it has super-charged them and essentially given them all their own personal developer that can automate tasks for them. Managing codebases, etc. is still a hassle though. 90% of the power of Excel was that it was…

I wouldn't want to build a business that was so dependent on a massive third-party that can either cut off my access or copy my design at any time of their choosing.

Re: Claude for Small Business

#106

Post by wiseowise »

tomnipotent wrote: post #64
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Setting aside my personal grievances with their vibe-coded slop products surrounding the model, the problem for Anthropic is that they do need to charge 10 times as much for model access, but can't because DeepSeek exists and can actually be sustainably served at $20/mo. LLMs are certainly here to stay, for better or worse, but the people going hundreds of billions of dollars into debt perhaps not so much. (Unless th…

> can actually be sustainably served at $20/mo Excepts it comes with a terrible experience that's not sustainable for any serious day-to-day work that doesn't involve constant coffee breaks to wait for some tokens to get generated. No thanks. They don't have to live up to the hype to be useful tools, and for something that costs me annually what I make in a day I'm perfectly happy with the value I'm getting of out of…

> This forum exists exactly because of these companies.

What’s that even supposed to mean?

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by xboxnolifes »

8note wrote: post #16
SilverElfin wrote: post #7

Isn’t Cowork a tough thing to trust? What if it goes wrong, especially in the hands of users that aren’t programmers? Anthropic is releasing these vibe codes products continuously and I feel like it’s only a matter of time before something goes wrong. Shouldn’t they focus on safety and security first before releasing these?

theres a pretty clear underlying system somebody needs to make "git for business"

Realistically, git for business is hourly backups. Though, so much of business software has moved to SaaS, so that's difficult to do yourself and instead you need to rely on every individual service having revisions and rollbacks.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by tyre »

nicce wrote: post #95
ageitgey wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user That's what they aim Claude Cowork at. Every executive/leader I've shown Claude Cowork to has gone from 'what is AI' to 'vibecoding whole apps' in weeks. Then when Claude is down for an hour, they get visibly angry and don't remember how to do anything pre-Claude :) I understand the impulse to provide a UI to manage codebases, etc. But my observation is…

> Then when Claude is down for an hour, they get visibly angry and don't remember how to do anything pre-Claude :) The drug is scary when everyone is depending on it. I wonder what is future like.

Same as anything else. It’ll go down sometimes, people will take a break and chat, then it will come back up.

Like Slack or GitHub or AWS or whatever. It’s almost always a net positive to wait vs do it yourself.

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