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Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by dandellion »

bayindirh wrote: post #11
giancarlostoro wrote: post #2

Everyone seems to be leaving GitHub, and forgetting the entire spirit of what git is in my eyes. Git was always meant to be decentralized, the problem here is that all the tooling around git was centralized to GitHub because it was a cleaner experience, they scaled nicely, and were properly maintained. I would prefer to still see mirrors on GitHub that are auto-synched because I've seen projects for years either self…

While I'm not forgetting the spirit of what Git is, I'm also remembering how GitHub used "all open repositories" to train their first Copilot without telling anyone. So, no thanks. I'll not be committing any personal code there anymore. And no, I don't care for the social aspects either. Discoverability, stars, and AI bot powered issue bombardment. I'm fine like this. Also, remember, "Open Source is not about You".

Don't forget a achievement badges.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by MyHonestOpinon »

echelon wrote: post #81
wutwutwat wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you come into a convo saying even Stallman isn't extreme enough, it's probably a good time to take a step back and evaluate your life.

I'm actually a capitalist. But our 25 year lax regulatory environment has created a world where the largest players abuse consumers and the competitive ecosystem. Open source is one of the many strategies these companies have abused to create grave harm to our society. It's let them get further with our support and with less expenditure. It's given them an ethical smoke screen. - Social media algorithms are the tobac…

I share your worries, but I don't blame open source for it. They would have done the same (or worst) without it.

Also, open source is one more justification on why we need to increase taxes on the very rich. At this point all of them have built their fortunes on it. Just like they do on the rest of public infrastructure.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by mgrandl »

satvikpendem wrote: post #83

I've also heard of Tangled [0] which is decentralized and built on the AT Protocol like Bluesky but also has some genuinely useful features that GitHub has been dragging its heels over in implementing, like PR stacking, such that entire companies have sprung up to add that feature in GitHub. Has anyone tried this? [0] https://tangled.org/

I would love to use it, mostly for the jj compatibility and the nice CI implementation, but I need private repos so sadly this is not yet for me.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by cjs_ac »

Fraterkes wrote: post #97

I do mostly enjoy all this moving to European tech because the thing being replaced is usually owned by Microsoft. I do kind of worry though: there's a broad trend of countries trying to become less reliant on eachother, and in my mind the long period of peace we've had in much of the west this past half century has partly been because we're all in business together.

They said that the First World War was impossible due to increasing trade dependencies between the European powers, and look how that turned out. ‘This is a terrible idea,’ is sadly not the deterrent to starting a war that it ought to be.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by treyd »

shimman wrote: post #25
_flux wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're forgetting issue tracking and CI.

Forgejo has both these things, I'd even argue Forgejo has a better runner than GitHub actions as it's less resource heavy and easier to debug when issues arise (only ran into one, and it was self inflicted).

I really wish people would drop the GHA model because it's so bad and insecure by design. GitLab's CI is miles better and easier to use.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by hnlmorg »

jimmaswell wrote: post #104
sc68cal wrote: post #34

I have also moved my git repositories to a self-hosted NUC. I have not yet bothered with a HTTP frontend to share it with the world, mostly because I don't want to provide AI scrapers with content and don't want to put the work in to block them. It's a shame that all these companies that benefited from open source have poisoned the industry like this

Why would someone gladly provide their work as open source but draw the line at AI reading it and using that knowledge to help more programmers later? It makes no sense to me. I actively want all of my code to be read by AI.

A couple of valid reasons:

+ they don’t want to pay the bandwidth costs

+ they don’t want to help train a model that might ultimately put them out of work.

I don’t personally agree that AI are taking out jobs, but I do think it’s still a reasonable concern others have so I would sympathise if that were the rationale.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by deaton »

jimmaswell wrote: post #104
sc68cal wrote: post #34

I have also moved my git repositories to a self-hosted NUC. I have not yet bothered with a HTTP frontend to share it with the world, mostly because I don't want to provide AI scrapers with content and don't want to put the work in to block them. It's a shame that all these companies that benefited from open source have poisoned the industry like this

Why would someone gladly provide their work as open source but draw the line at AI reading it and using that knowledge to help more programmers later? It makes no sense to me. I actively want all of my code to be read by AI.

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Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by ramshanker »

I wish it offered a windows binary as well, since the original project gitea from which it was forked, does so.

Sometime you need to go where many customers ahem enterprise are.

As a developer of an engineering application, windows is the way to go 1st hand. It would have been easier to adopt one more application on the daily driver enviornment. Till than, I am on GitHub only.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by antonyt »

jimmaswell wrote: post #104
sc68cal wrote: post #34

I have also moved my git repositories to a self-hosted NUC. I have not yet bothered with a HTTP frontend to share it with the world, mostly because I don't want to provide AI scrapers with content and don't want to put the work in to block them. It's a shame that all these companies that benefited from open source have poisoned the industry like this

Why would someone gladly provide their work as open source but draw the line at AI reading it and using that knowledge to help more programmers later? It makes no sense to me. I actively want all of my code to be read by AI.

Doesn't seem inconsistent to me. I may want my code to be open source so that other humans can read it, understand it, build on it, and contribute to it.

I may also have a philosophical opposition to generative AI at the same time - there are plenty of environmental, societal, and intellectual-property costs that some may find unconscionable.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Post by shimman »

treyd wrote: post #115
shimman wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgejo has both these things, I'd even argue Forgejo has a better runner than GitHub actions as it's less resource heavy and easier to debug when issues arise (only ran into one, and it was self inflicted).

I really wish people would drop the GHA model because it's so bad and insecure by design. GitLab's CI is miles better and easier to use.

True but GitLab is going to run into the same issues as GitHub, maybe even worse because GitLab doesn't have a trillion dollar multinational benefactor. Public corporation and developer tooling has never boded well, a current look at GitLab reflects this sentiment perfectly.

Which is why we should always champion FOSS for dev tooling as it's the only way a community can have a say in an industry dominated by unregulated tech behemoths.

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