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Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by allarm »

drw85 wrote: post #123
onion2k wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your tool regularly lies, gaslights and produces wrong results, that's a tooling issue. It's a human issue if you don't recognise that the code it's generated is wrong. That will never change no matter how good the tooling gets.

Would it be a human issue, if you type something into a calculator and the calculated result is wrong? Would anyone use a calculator confidently, if the result was randomly generated?

Why do you think this analogy is even remotely correct? It’s well-known that LLMs produce non-deterministic results. It’s also well-known that they hallucinate. To make it even clearer, all the top LLM players make sure to remind everyone of that behavior. If calculators had similar effects and warnings, it would have been a valid analogy. Instead, you're comparing apples and oranges.

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Post by sunaookami »

motbus3 wrote: post #150
sunaookami wrote: post #120

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It's for their CV's

Does it really count? Honest question. I mean, if I interview a candidate who put such thing on the CV, it wouldn't matter, but if it did, I would make 300% sure to ask him all the ins and outs. I think it would be plain stupid to expose that you didn't do that instead of showing smaller collaboration that you completely understand

>I would make 300% sure to ask him all the ins and outs

In a healthy job market this would be the norm, yes.

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Post by alnwlsn »

walletdrainer wrote: post #114
mvid wrote: post #112

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If hammer companies were suddenly the most valuable international companies, and spent millions on ad campaigns and lobbying about trusting the hammer interface, then you can assume a large amount of people might trust the hammer interface

Where are the ad campaigns telling me to trust LLMs? I don’t use an adblocker, do read traditional dead tree newspapers and do get exposed to satellite tv channels. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone anywhere telling me how reliable LLMs are. Pretty sure this tech sells itself to consumers, enterprise sales are what they’ve always been.

Literally saw a video ad the other day which went like "I've always been cautious using Google's AI because it sometimes gets things wrong, but this time, it got it right!"

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by drw85 »

allarm wrote: post #151
drw85 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it be a human issue, if you type something into a calculator and the calculated result is wrong? Would anyone use a calculator confidently, if the result was randomly generated?

Why do you think this analogy is even remotely correct? It’s well-known that LLMs produce non-deterministic results. It’s also well-known that they hallucinate. To make it even clearer, all the top LLM players make sure to remind everyone of that behavior. If calculators had similar effects and warnings, it would have been a valid analogy. Instead, you're comparing apples and oranges.

I think it's a valid analogy in some contexts. Like when talking to a person that is not aware of non-determinism and hallucinations. Which happens on this website very frequently.

Many people here tell you to use AI like you use a calculator. With minimal or no oversight, with full access to production systems, etc.

To let a non deterministic tool communicate on your behalf, or give it access to critical systems is evidence enough that a good number of people are not aware of these facts.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by heavyset_go »

potsandpans wrote: post #143
heavyset_go wrote: post #75

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No, it is a tooling problem. The tooling is telling laymen that they built wonderful things that definitely work and perfectly fix and add features. The tooling gasses them up and is simply wrong in these cases. If your tool regularly lies, gaslights and produces wrong results, that's a tooling issue.

Everyone, "please please please don't personify llms it's so harmful." Also everyone, "the inanimate tool is lying and tricking people into inundating open source developers with poorly thought out slop."

I am personally everyone

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

Groxx wrote: post #22
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #18

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I think some sort of reputation score would make more sense, assuming it’s possible to design one that can’t be easily faked

Perhaps something where you can build a graph of who invited whom so you could prune entire sections that act maliciously. One might even consider it a to be a web of connections which are built on (or torn down by the loss of) trust. Sounds futuristic. Maybe it's an NFT on an agentic blockchain for deep-sea solar farm mining?

You sound like a terrible person to be around.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #157
Groxx wrote: post #22

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Perhaps something where you can build a graph of who invited whom so you could prune entire sections that act maliciously. One might even consider it a to be a web of connections which are built on (or torn down by the loss of) trust. Sounds futuristic. Maybe it's an NFT on an agentic blockchain for deep-sea solar farm mining?

You sound like a terrible person to be around.

How would you even know that?

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

AlexeyBelov wrote: post #158
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #157

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You sound like a terrible person to be around.

How would you even know that?

Your condescending replies make you unlikable. I wouldn’t want to be around you and doubt others would either.

Re: PS3 Emulator Devs Politely Ask That People Stop Flooding It with AI PRs

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #159
AlexeyBelov wrote: post #158

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How would you even know that?

Your condescending replies make you unlikable. I wouldn’t want to be around you and doubt others would either.

I'm not the original user you were talking with. I just think you're just saying things to be upsetting to that user, with no basis in reality.
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