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GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by greenchair »

PradeetPatel wrote: post #110
Animats wrote: post #17

Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength. Does anyone know what caused this?

industry's greatest strength? where did that idea come from? hiring a bunch of didnt earn its based on race or sex? would you want your brain surgeon to be dei or do you want someone who is really good at the job?

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by solid_fuel »

u_fucking_dork wrote: post #98
ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let these people keep betting their companies, futures and net competency on text autocomplete. The future is bright for me and everyone else that isn't falling for it.

Calling it text autocomplete is played out and really just makes you look bad at this point.

It's literally text autocomplete. You can dress it up however you want but it takes input text and outputs the most likely next sequence.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by cheema33 »

torben-friis wrote: post #87
Animats wrote: post #17

Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

There's a 'github down' post here every other day. The ball is right there, bouncing alone in front of the goal, and they just have to position themselves as "we're the stable ones" to score that market when the exodus inevitably happens. Nope, full throttle and stimulants, just because.

> The ball is right there, bouncing alone in front of the goal

Their pitch is not to you, the dev. But, to the investor class. We are in this funny place in the market where you can make more money by catering to the investor class than to customers. In other words, an upside down world.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by itsdesmond »

mathgladiator wrote: post #93
madamelic wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Places I've worked that actually seem to have inclusion as a core value I am not sure if you had implied it but that would align with my experience as well: places that tout diversity were the worst places to work (as someone who is seen as 'diverse') while the ones that treated everyone the same and had the expectation everyone pulls their weight. I absolutely despise people treating me differently because of who…

I love wildly beyond mild inappropriate jokes as they are a litmus test for a thinking person. The people that take things way too sensitive are a net drag and buzz kill for doing the grinding required. It goes both ways too. I love it when people are agressive with me. So, by freedom of association, cliques form and I have no problem with nepotism because the ultimate currency in life is trust.

Embarrassing.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by LastTrain »

mathgladiator wrote: post #93
madamelic wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Places I've worked that actually seem to have inclusion as a core value I am not sure if you had implied it but that would align with my experience as well: places that tout diversity were the worst places to work (as someone who is seen as 'diverse') while the ones that treated everyone the same and had the expectation everyone pulls their weight. I absolutely despise people treating me differently because of who…

I love wildly beyond mild inappropriate jokes as they are a litmus test for a thinking person. The people that take things way too sensitive are a net drag and buzz kill for doing the grinding required. It goes both ways too. I love it when people are agressive with me. So, by freedom of association, cliques form and I have no problem with nepotism because the ultimate currency in life is trust.

> I love it when people are agressive with me.

I highly doubt it considering that you can’t even spell it right you incompetent pillar

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by greenchair »

georgemcbay wrote: post #149
PradeetPatel wrote: post #110

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There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength. Does anyone know what caused this?

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Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by tayo42 »

crote wrote: post #136
gsinclair wrote: post #127

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I think you need to make a case for DEI being “one of the industry’s greatest strengths”. It’s not obvious to me.

How well would the tech industry do if they fired all the autistic people for "not being team players"? How many dev teams are there without at least one furry, trans person, or socially awkward geek?

Socially awkward geek isn't dei

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by gopperl »

crote wrote: post #136
gsinclair wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you need to make a case for DEI being “one of the industry’s greatest strengths”. It’s not obvious to me.

How well would the tech industry do if they fired all the autistic people for "not being team players"? How many dev teams are there without at least one furry, trans person, or socially awkward geek?

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Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by noitpmeder »

bmarnane wrote: post #134
gsinclair wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you need to make a case for DEI being “one of the industry’s greatest strengths”. It’s not obvious to me.

If your product is used bya cross-section of society, then having a cross-section of society build it should lead to a better product no?

If a qualification for the role is "appreciation for certain less represented cultures/ideas/..." then sure. Otherwise, for a backend c++ engineer the benefits are significantly less obvious, to the point it's really hard to make a case for why DEI concerns should trump traditional evaluation metrics for skill.

The goal should be to hire the best team for the use case, regardless of gender/race/culture/background.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by AsmodiusVI »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #137
torben-friis wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a 'github down' post here every other day. The ball is right there, bouncing alone in front of the goal, and they just have to position themselves as "we're the stable ones" to score that market when the exodus inevitably happens. Nope, full throttle and stimulants, just because.

This is what happens, when decision makers are out of touch. So many things they could be doing, to make people buy into their services. For example they could simply run campaigns about how they promise to never use customer and user repositories for AI training. Or they could show better uptime statistics. Their CI language is better than Github's too. If anyone gave me a choice between Gitlab and Github, I would g…

They do say that? https://about.gitlab.com/compare/gitlab-vs-github/
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