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Post by cjbgkagh »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #447
cjbgkagh wrote: post #232

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Americans consistently vote for less war and they consistently get more war. If they voted for more war I’m pretty sure they would still get more war. I think blaming the American public for these wars is a deflection from the actual mechanisms that instigate them. We are more governed by blackmail than we are by voters. I do wish there was even more resistance though, war has been effectively pitched as costless or…

> I think blaming the American public for these wars is a deflection Where did I do that? There's no one to vote for that doesn't wage war. But to say voting for Trump was voting for less war is plain ridiculous. You'd have to ignore his entire career. He is famously fickle, is not shy about lying, and abandons friends at the soonest opportunity. A rational person hearing him say "I will end the Ukraine war on day 1"…

I consider the marginal voter to be rather dim, credulous, and uninformed irrational actors.

Politics in a universal suffrage democracy is the art of idiot whispering and Trump is a master of this art. I do believe that most of his voters genuinely thought they were voting for less war.

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Post by naruhodo »

sandworm101 wrote: post #206
MostlyStable wrote: post #199

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According to the resolution criteria, I would say that that market should trade much much higher than OP's hypothetical market. Any governmental agency stating that "Extraterrestrial life exists" would count. NASA/Seti finding evidence of algae on an exo planet or Io or something counts.

Which has already happened. Clinton basically announced the discovery of life on mars back in the 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHhZQWAtWyQ

It didn't pan out though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

Arodex wrote: post #326
qup wrote: post #316

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What are they distracting us from?

The upcoming elections they are in the process of rigging.

Are you talking about Virginia where their constitution requires two legislature votes and an election between changing district maps? A fact everyone knew before attempting a redistricting to eliminate Republicans seats by forcing six districts to run through Fairfax…

Or are you talking about something else?

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Post by matt_kantor »

rmunn wrote: post #481
SilentM68 wrote: post #426

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The only reasons I can think of why your comment would have gotten downvoted is for ideological reasons, e.g. people dislike the president so they downvoted you for saying something even slightly positive about him. Since HN is not supposed to be used for ideological battle, that seems unfair. So have a counterbalancing upvote.

Another reason I can think of is simple disagreement about facts (or, relatedly, disliking the lack of sources/evidence in the comment).

Like it or not, downvoting for mere disagreement is allowed here[0]. I personally think that any such downvotes should at least be accompanied by a reply, but I haven't been able to find official guidance about that.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16131314

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by david-gpu »

bredren wrote: post #179
david-gpu wrote: post #2

According to US congresswoman Luna this is the first of several releases that will be coming out in the following weeks. Edit: I had a look at a bunch of the videos and didn't find anything remarkable, in my opinion. The witness testimonies read like so many others.

They may read like so many others, but what I don't understand is why special agents in the FBI would take it upon themselves to report strange phenomena. This seems like it would be a CLM, as the authority of their testimony is central to their function as federal LE. For example, see this document: https://www.war.gov/medialink/ufo/release_1/western_us_event... (from series of documents from incident data 9/1/23)

Yes, you touch on something that is key to the past few years of soft disclosure: why are highly cleared people like Grusch, Gallaudet, Nell, and so many others putting themselves in such a delicate position? I have not been able to come up with a solid plausible explanation, other than they genuinely believe what they say, bizarre as it sounds.

And what sort of evidence does it take for people like that to believe things like that? I presume it takes more than blurry dots moving against a dark background. Hopefully future data releases will give us something that answers that question.

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Post by keepamovin »

marshray wrote: post #437
keepamovin wrote: post #417

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Lol, what? Reads as zany non-sequitur in context - did you reply right? Your frame that any timing of this drop is disputed and requires evidence, I reject. If you say precisely which phrases you felt that about, your comment might be better.

Oh, you were joking? Sorry, I encounter someone who believes exactly what you wrote at least once a week.

Haha Nooo, lol, not joking at all! And no, you do not encounter such as there's no person like me and you don't know me. You tried to fit a real person into a stand-in category in your head you're already tired of arguing with :)

I get if you wanna pretend a joke to avoid dealing directly, as you've done here. Very crab like! Little crab. One would think a crab so experienced would be more deft at directness lol

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Post by shwaj »

XorNot wrote: post #465
marshray wrote: post #446

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People who believe in "chemtrails" are (in my un-scientific survey) pretty likely to be conspiracy enthusiasts ("cranks", "crazy", etc.). But they're not wrong that the stuff coming out of the back of jet aircraft is changing the climate. Small, localized weather engineering programs have long been real (cloud seeding), and planetary-scale climate engineering projects are now openly discussed by governments. E.g. htt…

Except "stuff" isn't coming out of the back of aircraft: they're talking about aircraft contrails which is just condensed water vapor from wingtip turbulence. The people who claim they're monitoring chemtrails aren't even watching aircraft which are deliberately dispensing payloads, because it just isn't that common in the first place (unless you go out and watch crop dusting, but then you can also just see the guy l…

I thought they’re primarily water vapor resulting from the combustion reaction, not from wing tip turbulence.
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