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Post by marshray »

keepamovin wrote: post #403
marshray wrote: post #398

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As used here "UFO-crazy" wasn't a supposition, it was a constraint. "UFO-crazy uncles" are known to exist. This is not an extraordinary claim. The existence of such uncles provides no evidence for or against extraterrestrial visitors or other aerial phenomena.

In context seemed more like a smear for any who don't dismiss as unremarkable. But I'm glad you took it as the narrow case, tho - do they really "exist", or might they have just been right all along ? Lol

Being "crazy" and later turning ought to be "right" are not exclusive.

One can be right for bad reasons.

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Post by techteach00 »

krferriter wrote: post #247
techteach00 wrote: post #205

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Okay here we go. I think this was two winters ago. They floated, sometimes would briefly hold position. Third time in the past decade I encountered them. I pulled to the side of the road. Nobody else pulled over or noticed. Encounter lasted maybe 5 minutes. I honestly don't remember. https://files.catbox.moe/05tysy.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/g46n6f.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/xz7bux.jpg

What do you mean by "encounter lasted maybe 5 minutes"? Where did the lights go after the 5 minutes? From your description these could potentially be military grade illumination flares, which fall very slowly and can burn for several minutes. From the photos alone it's also hard to rule out distant airplanes with their bright forward landing lights on. When planes are flying towards you they appear to move very slowl…

"Where did the lights go after the 5 minutes".

They just fell out of my sightline. Whether trees or something else. It's fairly urban where I am, always stuff blocking the view. Not like the great plains, desert etc.

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Post by keepamovin »

krferriter wrote: post #412
keepamovin wrote: post #385

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It doesn't look like artifacts look: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/a-gimbal-glare-explainer.12... tho it still might be. This theory is the one of yours least easily dismissed, but requires further evidence to be more convincing, I believe.

Don’t cite the deep lore to me https://www.metabunk.org/threads/the-chandelier-ufo.13307/

Lol "deep lore" - what are you really some sort of priest on this topic? Ok, priest, what is your read of the bigger picture - not the narrow DoW released videos, but the larger context.

Re the counterpost - i admit it's a good effort to match the graphics - but it still looks markedly different. Thermal overexposure seems less likely given paucity of other examples - what about active jamming? IR laser pointing? Hunch just now: sth about polarized light? Idk.

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Post by keepamovin »

marshray wrote: post #421
keepamovin wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In context seemed more like a smear for any who don't dismiss as unremarkable. But I'm glad you took it as the narrow case, tho - do they really "exist", or might they have just been right all along ? Lol

Being "crazy" and later turning ought to be "right" are not exclusive. One can be right for bad reasons.

OK - this needs some good examples :)

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Post by esbranson »

krferriter wrote: post #414
esbranson wrote: post #413

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No, these releases are UFOs as of now, after extensive cross-agency review. Your premise of "one person didn’t know what it was" is demonstrably false. This is not a release of identified anomalous phenomena or IAP or IFOs.

You are vastly overestimating how much analytical work gets put into investigating the original context and flight modeling for videos like these before they are released. The UAP Task Force did a presentation to Congress in which the head of the office showed a frame of the now-viral “green triangles” UFO video filmed with night vision camera on the deck of a US Navy vessel. The UAP Task Force was staffed with UFO b…

You are discussing IAP/IFOs. That's good they were able to identify light and released videos of it. And yeah I get why conspiracy theories of military parabnormal cabals is exciting, but also beside the point. This is about UFOs/UAP and not about whether AARO can identify light but whether the US combatant commands, the alphabet agencies, and the White House together can.

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Post by SilentM68 »

keepamovin wrote: post #394
andsoitis wrote: post #392

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What do you think are more likely to explanations?

I feel it premature on the data to offer any at all. Also inappropriate for me to explain because I don't want the role, nor to bias any. I am content with the mystery and will see what shows up. Re this latest "drop" - I am in the absorb and observe phase, analysis is only passive background, if at all, I think. I'm grateful for the entertainment and the sense of "gov't doing something people want/revealing somethin…

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Post by marshray »

foltik wrote: post #361
hnfong wrote: post #354

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> Because, apparently, a consistent trend of 100 consecutive falsifications implies nothing about the likelihood of #101. And at the end of the day, it's impossible to conclusively prove a negative. That's right. Not sure why you sound a bit unhappy with this. In particular, a source can become more untrustworthy over time if the source is repeatedly proven to lie or be reckless about the truth. I'm not sure you can…

If a “category of claims” has shared causal structure, then the category’s track record absolutely does tell you something about the next claim in it. It’s not arbitrary. Alien UFOs, Chem-Trails, and Flat Earth are obviously all generated from the same distribution of bullshit: ambiguous or misunderstood phenomena explained by positing a vast hidden conspiracy.

Every person on Earth could agree that Earth is flat and it wouldn't affect the reality of whether or not extraterrestrials visit earth even a little bit.

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Post by throwawa1 »

moralestapia wrote: post #69
throwawa1 wrote: post #40

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yup. I'm not going through this.

Fortunately, you don't have to. Competent people will get busy on this.

Thank you Autism! I look forward to reading about aliens in a way that is easy for me

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Post by bredren »

hnfong wrote: post #357
bredren wrote: post #179

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They may read like so many others, but what I don't understand is why special agents in the FBI would take it upon themselves to report strange phenomena. This seems like it would be a CLM, as the authority of their testimony is central to their function as federal LE. For example, see this document: https://www.war.gov/medialink/ufo/release_1/western_us_event... (from series of documents from incident data 9/1/23)

Could be spy technology from other countries, I suppose.

> The object was described as being "similar to the Eye or [sic] Sauron from Lord of the Rings, except without the pupil, or maybe an orange Storm Electrify bowling ball."

It would have been some fantastic spy tech, alright.

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