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Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#81
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It's always East 1... Jokes aside I don't understand how often east-1 is taken down compared to other regions. Like it should be pretty similar to other regions architecture wise.

Amusingly:

> AWS in 2025: The Stuff You Think You Know That’s Now Wrong

> us-east-1 is no longer a merrily burning dumpster fire of sadness and regret.

https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/aws-in-2025-the-stuff-you...

Otherwise a good article!

Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#82
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Ashburn VA is a datacenter hub because the very first non-government Internet Exchange Point (IXP) anywhere in the world was there ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAE-East ). Back in the 1990's something like half of all internet traffic all over the world hit MAE-East. That in turn made AWS put their first region there (us-east-1 preceded eu-west-1 by 2 years and us-west-1 by 3 years). Then because there were lot…

Well said. I'll also add, that with these networks, the sooner you can get traffic off your network the better. There's strong incentive to have your datacenter near these peering points. And since MAE-East was the first, it's been the largest as it's been snowballing the oldest. AOL's HQ was here, Equinix built their peering point soon after MAE-East, etc. There's a great read about the whole area here: https://www.…

> But there are services that are located here and only here and only here

Why is that? You would think the company ending events like IAM going poof due to it being dependent on us-east-1 would be top priority to fix?

Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#83
post #51

It's always East 1... Jokes aside I don't understand how often east-1 is taken down compared to other regions. Like it should be pretty similar to other regions architecture wise.

It's the oldest regional system and has some structural importance (e.g. the internal CA resides there I think)

Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#84
post #34

AWS’s US-East 1 continues to be the Achilles heel of the Internet. And while yes building across multiple regions and AZs is a thing, AWS has had a string of issues where US-East 1 has broader impacts, which makes things far less redundant and resilient than AWS implies.

Too many people are using it. In fantasy magic dream land loads are distributed evenly across different cloud providers. A single point of failure doesn't exist. It worked out with my first girlfriend. The twins are fluent in English and Korean. They know when deploying a large scale service to not only depends on AWS. Healthcare in the US is affordable. All types of magical stuff exist here. But no. It's another day…

Core AWS services use it too. Even if you are hosted in another region, you can still be affected by a US-East 1 outage

Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#86
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many people are using it. In fantasy magic dream land loads are distributed evenly across different cloud providers. A single point of failure doesn't exist. It worked out with my first girlfriend. The twins are fluent in English and Korean. They know when deploying a large scale service to not only depends on AWS. Healthcare in the US is affordable. All types of magical stuff exist here. But no. It's another day…

Core AWS services use it too. Even if you are hosted in another region, you can still be affected by a US-East 1 outage

Bingo. This is the one most people don't know about.

Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#88
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many people are using it. In fantasy magic dream land loads are distributed evenly across different cloud providers. A single point of failure doesn't exist. It worked out with my first girlfriend. The twins are fluent in English and Korean. They know when deploying a large scale service to not only depends on AWS. Healthcare in the US is affordable. All types of magical stuff exist here. But no. It's another day…

Core AWS services use it too. Even if you are hosted in another region, you can still be affected by a US-East 1 outage

The idea would be to actually load distribute between different cloud providers.

But even then , the load balancer needs to run somewhere. Which becomes a new single point of failure.

I’m sure someone smarter than me has figured this out.

Re: AWS North Virginia data center outage – resolved

#89

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Of course not. They fail above 100%. Some fail below 100% too.

You can't have a duty cycle above 100%. It's impossible.

Not according to POTUS math. You can have 200%, 500%, 600%, 1200%. You just have to say it enough and people will question if they really might not understand percentages enough, and just go with it.
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