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You don't think that some people simply disagree with the idea that this is bad? Or like maybe the CAPTCHA company who put out the post has an agenda here? So you want to go after engineers personally? I wonder what you've done that might warrant harassment? Look at how complicated CAPTCHAs are getting to try to be unsolvable with AI - it's a losing game. This and the WEI proposal are trying to solve a very, very rea…
It's making a valid point.
I wondered people are reading "I wonder what you've done that might warrant harassment?" as some kind of personal threat or incitement to harassment, but I read it as precisely the opposite.
It's an entirely valid point that many of us have worked at jobs on products that did something that somebody disagreed with, and we shouldn't be asking anybody to harass us personally for it, because that is wrong.
GP is asking to "aggressively name and shame" engineers. It's entirely valid to say that you wouldn't much like that if it happened to you.
Maybe a dumb question, but how is this suppose to work for iphone users? They wont have google play, and it seems like android/google play is required here? There is no way they would cut out such a huge chunk of the market.
Apple has device attestation deployed like one year before Google even proposed it: https://httptoolkit.com/blog/apple-private-access-tokens-att...
hacker news when reading that google is doing the same thing for the rest of the userbase: "hello, human resources?"
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Phone is small computer
It is, just like a calculator is a small computer. It's not a personal computing device though, in the sense that the user can't develop and deploy their own software/tools on it.
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Why would anyone "feel uncomfortable opening their door, walking down the street" if they weren't being harassed? It sounds to me like you're trying to defend harassment. If that's not true, and you also believe people should not be harassed, it would be helpful if you stated so clearly and unambiguously.
> Why would anyone "feel uncomfortable opening their door, walking down the street" if they weren't being harassed? Usually people feel ashamed when they do something that is shameful. That is the definition of being uncomfortable. > It sounds to me like you're trying to defend harassment. If that's not true, and you also believe people should not be harassed, it would be helpful if you stated so clearly. I am agains…
If the law allows it, why not?
If a company is doing things you don't like, you have a few choices:
1. Don't buy things from them
2. Picket or otherwise express your displeasure at the company's place of business
3. Publish your own complaint about them
4. Pressure your legal representative to make the behavior unlawful
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It should not be a "vote with your wallet" situation. It should be governments shattering that organization into appropriately sized companies.
It should have been the government providing an identity verification API, like they already do in the physical world with physical IDs. Governments dropped the ball, and so now Apple and Google get to be infrastructure.
That's no better, and in many ways far worse, than the corpos doing it.
Whether it's AMP or manifest 3 or android source shenanigan or attempts to replace cookies with their FLOC nonsense or this...Google is rapidly turning into a malicious force when it comes to the open internet
the fact that this kind of comment gets downvoted proves my point. so what if you personally don't like WEI? it doesn't mean the problems aren't real...
that aside, i don't know how people say stuff like "malicious force" and then you go and use a bajillion Google-authored, completely free as in beer and often free as in freedom technologies that nobody obligates you to use at all. It's not like Apple, where their software is so shitty (Messages, Apple Photos, etc.) that the only reason people use it is because it is locked down and forced upon you. it's interesting to me that @dang worries about the tenor of conversation changing - he longs for that 2009 world of university-level math people hanging out and writing comments about LISP or whatever - when the real deficit is not intelligence about math but, at the very least, seeing that things are nuanced, to see more sides to a problem besides the most emotionally powerful and the most mathematically neutral ones.