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Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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jakubadamw wrote: post #381
niemandhier wrote: post #76

I love the polish, but credit where credit is due: „Poland is the largest beneficiary of EU funds 2014-2020, with one in four euro going to Poland“ https://www.gov.pl/web/funds-regional-policy/poland-at-the-f... Update: The comments below this are strange. I ment: „Poland gets money, Poland transforms it into more money”. Is Poland more efficient in it than other countries? I do not know. Would Poland have generated…

It’s a factor that’s not any more significant than the Marshall Plan was in your Wirtschaftswunder in the 1970s, which, oddly enough, a lot of Germans have no issue attributing to a domestic merit alone. Funny how that works! If it was the EU contributions that were the dominant force here, Germany could… simply do the same and prop up its own struggling economy with money printed by the ECB. Instead, it prefers to s…

Britain received more from the Marshall plan and did a little worse. The Marshall plan also did not involve the US having completely free access to Germany economically and move all their companies to Germany for cheaper wages.

If you talk about asylum seekers (which may be a valid point), notice also that German social security institutions are filled to the brim with Eastern European claimants.

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Post by Silhouette »

c16 wrote: post #341
grey-area wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully most people have learned from the absolute shambles of Brexit and either of these countries leaving is extremely unlikely.

Have they? https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c1428pev1n0t

Be careful about reading too much into that. Our elections yesterday were for local and sometimes regional representatives - not our central national government. The result might still prompt a change in our unpopular Prime Minister but the high vote for Reform won't necessarily translate into voting for them at the next general election. We often see protest votes for alternative parties in local politics and everyone was expecting one this time.

Surveys here have been showing a trend towards greater public support for the EU. Its advocates have been pushing for closer integration and even talking of a referendum on rejoining. Although of course this also has to be viewed cautiously because the polls before the Brexit referendum had also pointed towards remaining and one of the biggest fans of the EU recently has been that unpopular PM who might not be in office for much longer.

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Post by archleaf »

Haemm0r wrote: post #334
lukan wrote: post #239

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"Back in a days it was a lot, lot slower and more detailed." Oh for sure, I have childhood memories of the really dark time, but it is way worse now, than it was back in 2015. I missed flixbus connections because of intense checks and changed vacation plans avoiding long waiting times at borders within EU (my recommendation, cross at night).

Flixbus are a primary target for those inspections...

Is this something new within the last year? I just travelled on Flixbus across Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland and received no checks.

Is it only certain countries?

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Post by reubenlavin »

ptdorf wrote: post #21

Educated AND motivated workforce will do the trick. All the polish I know that work in IT enjoy handwork as well. They are hard workers.

Yes, I agree. I believe cultural norms dictated their rate of expansion. Without so many people who enjoyed hard work they like would not have been able to expand their economy as much.

Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by postepowanieadm »

niemandhier wrote: post #76

I love the polish, but credit where credit is due: „Poland is the largest beneficiary of EU funds 2014-2020, with one in four euro going to Poland“ https://www.gov.pl/web/funds-regional-policy/poland-at-the-f... Update: The comments below this are strange. I ment: „Poland gets money, Poland transforms it into more money”. Is Poland more efficient in it than other countries? I do not know. Would Poland have generated…

And 90 cents of every euro returning to the Old EU. Not to mention tax avoidance schemes, western companies transfer their profits out.

Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by gregoryl »

cm2012 wrote: post #309
FrustratedMonky wrote: post #126

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I don't know much about Poland Why was other comment flagged and dead???

The guy has a ghost ban on Hacker News. He was banned for some other comment. He doesn't know that no one else can see his post.

Probably not hellbanned, maybe spam filters gone wrong. I vouched them back into the land of the living :)

Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by 5upplied_demand »

LeonidasXIV wrote: post #203
yeahforsureman wrote: post #170

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Not surprised to see "German" quotation marks in this petty complaint...

Polish people have such a fear of Germans, thinking Germans are constantly scheming to screw Poland over. Whereas most Germans barely know Poland even exists. As someone who has lived in both countries its such a hilarious anxiety.

> As someone who has lived in both countries its such a hilarious anxiety.

What's hilarious about it? It seems pretty well-rooted given the actual history of the two areas.

- 1939: Germany invaded in 1939, officially starting World War II.

- 1941: Germany occupied the rest of Poland after attacking the Soviet Union, which had previously occupied Eastern Poland.

- Teutonic Order/Prussia: Throughout the 13th–16th centuries, the Teutonic Order fought numerous wars against Poland.

- Medieval Period: Records show invasions by Margrave Gero (963), Margrave Odo I (972), Emperor Otto II (979), and multiple campaigns by King Heinrich II between 1003 and 1017.

Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by SiempreViernes »

Quarrel wrote: post #390
FinnKuhn wrote: post #362

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Lots of people who work in Luxembourg don't live there so anything "per capita" is a bit misleading. Additionally a lot of the EU's institutions are based there or have offices there, some of which might count as investments as well. Lastly, everything there is really expensive. So you need to invest a larger amount to achieve the same thing as elsewhere.

These are reasons why it might not be the largest provider of funds per capita, not why it would be by orders of magnitude the biggest recipient. I have been to Luxembourg and to Hungary, Bulgaria & Greece - the otherwise obvious contenders for "poorest" in the EU and Luxembourg should not be in the picture.

If it gets funds for restoring one railway bridge or something of that sort the fact the population is tiny makes the per capita investment look huge, just usual tiny country effects.
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