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Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by lifestyleguru »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #232
kingstoned wrote: post #7

They have had good public education for the past decade or two and rank high in international student rankings. So, I would bet that high 'human capital' would be the cause here.

Polish education has a long tradition of excellence. Indeed, the last decade has seen reforms that have been heavily criticized for working against that.

You mean "MBA for a fee" Collegium Tumanum, or the best elite two universities which globally barely rank somewhere in the fifth hundred? Sorry it's not education. Poles are cheap and subservient, while cutthroat among each other.

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Post by Detrytus »

niemandhier wrote: post #76

I love the polish, but credit where credit is due: „Poland is the largest beneficiary of EU funds 2014-2020, with one in four euro going to Poland“ https://www.gov.pl/web/funds-regional-policy/poland-at-the-f... Update: The comments below this are strange. I ment: „Poland gets money, Poland transforms it into more money”. Is Poland more efficient in it than other countries? I do not know. Would Poland have generated…

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Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by syntex »

spwa4 wrote: post #225
jillesvangurp wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it as an investment. The rest of the EU also benefits from their hard work, and economic prosperity. Other countries in the EU have also enjoyed economic growth and support over the years. I'm old enough to remember internal borders with passport checks in Europe, before the wall fell and Poland was still on the other side of that. Nice to see them moving on from that. Thanks to the EU free movement of peopl…

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You've some wrong assumption. One is that you are wrong about Poland / Greece wages. In 2026 Polish worker actually earns more than a Greece worker for the same role. Something like 25% more in Poland

Also Polands power grid is quite old and hasn't kept pace with demand. The grid operator last year had to reject thousands of requests for new connections

Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by jari_mustonen »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #149
niemandhier wrote: post #76

I love the polish, but credit where credit is due: „Poland is the largest beneficiary of EU funds 2014-2020, with one in four euro going to Poland“ https://www.gov.pl/web/funds-regional-policy/poland-at-the-f... Update: The comments below this are strange. I ment: „Poland gets money, Poland transforms it into more money”. Is Poland more efficient in it than other countries? I do not know. Would Poland have generated…

Think of it as an investment. The rest of the EU also benefits from their hard work, and economic prosperity. Other countries in the EU have also enjoyed economic growth and support over the years. I'm old enough to remember internal borders with passport checks in Europe, before the wall fell and Poland was still on the other side of that. Nice to see them moving on from that. Thanks to the EU free movement of peopl…

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Post by 1718627440 »

6d6b73 wrote: post #50
retinaros wrote: post #18

french and german working class tax. and obviously great leadership to use EU and that money well to win. unlike france for instance that got outplayed by germany that itself got outplayed by their dear ally the USA and are now going into energy obsolescence.

German working class is actually benefiting from this as Poland it one of their biggest importers now. And they are still benefiting from slave labor, stolen precious metals, and art they got during the WW2. Not to mention the Marshall Plan. They really can't be complaining.

> German working class is actually benefiting from this as Poland it one of their biggest importers now.

Yes they do.

> And they are still benefiting from slave labor

Not sure whether that really matters now-a-days for the economy.

> stolen precious metals

One of the cores of industrial and mine centers that made the German Empire thrive during the Belle Epoque, are now owned by Poland.

> Not to mention the Marshall Plan.

Half of Germany, didn't got to get it but where instead paying reparations for whole Germany. Sorry, I'm a bit tired of acting like Germany only got the history of being on the west side of the iron curtain. It got both treatments.

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Post by lpcvoid »

spwa4 wrote: post #225
jillesvangurp wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it as an investment. The rest of the EU also benefits from their hard work, and economic prosperity. Other countries in the EU have also enjoyed economic growth and support over the years. I'm old enough to remember internal borders with passport checks in Europe, before the wall fell and Poland was still on the other side of that. Nice to see them moving on from that. Thanks to the EU free movement of peopl…

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Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by draw_down »

draw_down wrote: post #27
helge9210 wrote: post #5

Vacuuming working age population from Ukraine since 2014. Poland did everything right, while Ukrainian governments and businesses were smirking "What are you going to do?" during salary discussions.

Hmm, I think you’re not ever supposed to say anything negative about Ukraine.

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Re: Poland is now among the 20 largest economies

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Post by DarkNova6 »

testing22321 wrote: post #195
DarkNova6 wrote: post #157

Investment, infrastructure, education. Same as China. Same as every other growing country. What the US and most other western countries do are: Let infrastructure rot, defund education, reroute money to large corporations. This is how you end up with failed state.

Can you give examples of western countries other than the US doing that? I’ve never seen it, I travel a lot.

I can definitely speak for all German speaking countries (Germany, Austria, but also Switzerland). Absolutely the UK as well. But really, Austerity was a trend that was followed by pretty much all EU countries since 2008 and the trend has not been reversed. And the Chinese have been buying european key industrial companies left and right going back as far as 2010.

Instituations haven't been renewed, education hasn't been brought up to reflect the latest reality of life and digitalization of state workflows? Hah, no.

But if a fraudulent bank requires saving? Sure, 500 billions or more can be paid upfront. Multiple times if necessary.

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Post by tsunamifury »

PopAlongKid wrote: post #243
Forgeties79 wrote: post #201

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> Think of it as an investment. The rest of the EU also benefits from their hard work, and economic prosperity. Other countries in the EU have also enjoyed economic growth and support over the years. This is something I tell people I am generally politically/socially align with (liberals/progressives) when they start talking about “handouts for red states.” California and other areas were not developed on their own,…

>This is something I tell people I am generally politically/socially align with (liberals/progressives) when they start talking about “handouts for red states.” California and other areas were not developed on their own, they required years of sustained federal investment and interest in the area. If they were to ask where you think this "federal investment" funding came from, what would you reply?

Equating investments in California with the welfare state that is Louisiana is a take

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Post by purpleflame1257 »

wussboy wrote: post #233
eowln wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not what I said. I said there are more important things to increase the wellbeing of the citizens of a country than democracy. In other words, a country can use democracy as a tool to destroy itself.

Maybe. But I don't think you will find any of those things without strong democracy.

Counterpoint: China from Deng and onwards is an autocracy with rapidly improving material conditions
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