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Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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10-12 Months ago I had commented here that people are not realising that AI is going to price us normal people out of computer hardware and we need China to actually reach on parity with node size. And sadly it looks like I was correct in my prediction.

After the recent run-up, where are prices on a per-performance basis? Back to 2019? Computers were incredibly more expensive when I was growing up. People bought them anyway. Is a computer that lasts 5-8 really productive years (and is still serviceable for another 5-7) and costs $1500 really a deal-breaker just because it was $1000 and on sale for $850 a year ago? Even if it doubled again, it still doesn’t price nor…

I just looked at some low-end NAS-oriented HDDs. The cost $/TB is 2x similar ones I bought 5 years ago.

That has never before happened in the history of computing, and it violates long-held, fundamental assumptions.

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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Not just motherboards. Cases, PC accessories (fans, etc), consumer SSDs, and more. Cases are especially hard hit, apparently, as they're already quite a low margin business. Personally, I see little reason to upgrade from my AM4 platform. It's never been easier to hold on to aging hardware with the advent of DLSS stretching older cards further, diminishing returns on the newer gen GPUs, and the 'realism' of video gam…

I invested quite a bit in enterprises level homelab equipment 2020 to 2025 (about 10k). Happy I made it before the big bang. Eg. my SAS he8 drives will last at least till 2035. But what then? I want my children to be free, too.

You cannot be fully free if you're attached to physical goods.

It may sound like pseudo-Buddhist claptrap, but it's also true. Or, I suppose, Fight Club claptrap. It's still true.

The choice is "do you want to participate in society, its benefits and drawbacks". You can't have only one side of that.

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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"Fueled by greed". It would be trivial to say no to AI companies because dollars are dollars, it doesn't matter who pays them, and prioritizing literally all of humanity instead of "five companies" is a choice that every single supplier could make, but decided not to. This problem was 100% manufactured by suppliers.

It would be equally "trivial" to say no to personal compute as well. So maybe the problem is manufactured by all of us.

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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To be owned, someone needs leverage over you or the ability to coerce you. I spent the last half a century making sure they have no leverage and I am not interested in being coerced. It's called security.

If you don't care to go into detail, that's fine, but your answer is vague. E.g. do you have a hidden, off-grid, underground lair?

No. I don't need to work. I outright own my accomodation. I have no hard technology dependencies.

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be owned, someone needs leverage over you or the ability to coerce you. I spent the last half a century making sure they have no leverage and I am not interested in being coerced. It's called security.

Hey guys, Richard Stallman is on HN!

Hey I clean my toes before they become snackable.

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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considering how unsustainable this whole AI Business is and how much it ruins everything, I can't wait for the crash. Why did we listen to the Worldcoin guy again?

Because he killed the Open part of openai and the PEs went nuts

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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You sound like a useless-eater manager. Just the kind of roles we'll be happy to have in our future Utopia. The people will be happy to be led by such visionaries such as yourself.

Hey, I'm pretty sure the person you're replying to is being satirical, and you're both in alignment on this one.

We were both being satirical. Seems like people couldn't seem to attribute me the same generosity and benefit of the doubt as the OP. Funny and yet the starkness of the hostility onto my post and not his is real.

Re: Motherboard sales 'collapse' amid unprecedented shortages fueled by AI

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Maybe with AI we can finally kill user-owned computing, and make almost everyone renters. It's really wrong that the common people have access to things like PCs. It leaves a lot of money on the table the corporations can extract, and makes control much harder. PCs should cost at least as much as a car, so only the right people can afford them. Own nothing and be happy.

Sarcasm aside, yep. There will be three classes: the owned, the owners and the unownable. I aim to be unownable.

i've said something similar, but i shorten it to labour and capital. similar conclusion.
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