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Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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Post by michaelmrose »

fragmede wrote: post #44
pxoe wrote: post #21

Calligraphy pen/tool is still unusable, messy and less responsive (lower resolution, more angular, etc), much worse than in 0.92, and it's been this way ever since 1.0. It also now requires windows ink to be on, and they removed devices panel so you can't even tell if your device is recognized properly. It's bad with a tablet, but it's still just as bad and much worse in comparison even with the mouse. It's kinda dis…

In this day and age, why not fork it and use Codex or Claude to fix the specific problems you're hitting?

You are drastically underestimating how hard this is to do if they don't code and the time cost which would be spent actual using the tool.

Also either the difficulty either upstreaming changes or porting these changes to every subsequent version.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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Post by darknavi »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #73
darknavi wrote: post #39

I have my first contribution to Inkscape in this release I think. It's quite a minor feature though, so I don't see it in the changelog. It allows the user to set their default saved file name. I was tired of drawing.svg :)

What default would you change it to,

I normally change mine to `project.svg` but that's just my preference.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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Post by michaelmrose »

chongli wrote: post #43
2ndorderthought wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the authors don't owe you anything. You aren't giving them a single thing. They don't have to justify a thing. There is no SLA, no contract, nothing. Feedback is fine, but there are so comments being things like "ermahgerd I paid nothing for this thing and a feature wasn't working What the actual F!". Go file an issue and fix it yourself buddy.

Users don’t owe the authors anything either. If they want to ignore longstanding complaints, they can toil in obscurity. Heck the only reason this post made the front page of HN is because of lingering goodwill that was built up when the software was actually decent. Now that it’s regressed into uselessness, the goodwill is drying up. I, frankly, don’t have any interest in the software anymore, since it was rendered…

This is a very negative statement and even if it were true it wouldn't belong here. It's unkind and unfair.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#84

Post by _carbyau_ »

thenthenthen wrote: post #54
throwa356262 wrote: post #7

I love Inkscape. But their UX is getting worse with each release. I think they need another Blender-style overhaul

In my experience Blender seemed to change the UI and naming of UI elements and options with almost any release making many tutorials incomprehensible thus almost obsolete, making it super hard to get into

I love Blender. After years of using it I am a basic user as I only use it for 3D printed models.

But Blender is just hard to get into. It's not just the updates, though they may not help.

What helped me most was setting aside the time to do a series of ~3 minute videos going back to the absolute basics.

IE how to: rearrange your workspace, use viewport, vertices-edges-faces, transforms-Grab, Rotate, Scale. And more.

AND THEN learning all the keyboard shortcut keys for them.

Blender is so much easier once you learn the common keyboard shortcuts that YOU use all the time. So take those notes.

Bit of exploration of the Blender documentation, which is fantastic but probably 99% used by the automated cognitive tools you asked a query of.

After THAT, you watch/do the tutorials to build basic donut/sword/gadget whatever of interest.

Then you are on your own to do what you want and then the inevitable forum/AI queries about specifics to try to solve the issue you are having.

In my early days, I spent over a week making a game model plane into something I could print. Now I understand the concepts and a few blender tools, it might take me 30 minutes.

Easy? No. It does require a concerted effort. It's not something you just "pick up on the side" like basic photo edits.

But damn, it opens up a whole new world of possibilities...

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#85

Post by bowsamic »

nathanmills wrote: post #29
pxoe wrote: post #21

Calligraphy pen/tool is still unusable, messy and less responsive (lower resolution, more angular, etc), much worse than in 0.92, and it's been this way ever since 1.0. It also now requires windows ink to be on, and they removed devices panel so you can't even tell if your device is recognized properly. It's bad with a tablet, but it's still just as bad and much worse in comparison even with the mouse. It's kinda dis…

Keep in mind that it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE software

Inkscape is the only software that I see people get so defensive about when criticised. I even had the lead dev appear in my mentions and try and start fighting me on twitter when I complained on my own timeline about the performance on macOS. Weird culture

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#86

Post by cycomanic »

omoikane wrote: post #25
tasuki wrote: post #2

Ah, the tool I love and hate. Mostly love though. Let me tell you about the single thing I hate: I open a simple hand-crafted SVG and want to make a simple change. It messes up all my formatting and uses its own weird formatting, with line breaks between attributes. I'd rather it at least put newlines between elements rather than between attributes. Ideally there'd be a "save with minimal edits from the original" but…

> a simple hand-crafted SVG I have also had trouble with some generated SVGs, for example: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/issues/5317 Part of the problem is that Inkscape is too good, and the file format it uses mostly conforms to standards, so I have the expectation that opening arbitrary SVGs would just work. With other programs that use proprietary formats, I wouldn't have tried to generate drawings at all…

Have you tried saving in one of the different SVG formats. I forgot what inkscape calls them, but IMO there are 2 or 3 different SVG formats one can choose when saving. I know I needed that a long time ago, because chrome could not deal with the advanced features in regular inkscape SVG.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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Post by fragmede »

michaelmrose wrote: post #81
fragmede wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this day and age, why not fork it and use Codex or Claude to fix the specific problems you're hitting?

You are drastically underestimating how hard this is to do if they don't code and the time cost which would be spent actual using the tool. Also either the difficulty either upstreaming changes or porting these changes to every subsequent version.

I absolutely am, but I've seen non-coders get up to all sorts of mischief using AI these days.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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Post by ltlnx »

bowsamic wrote: post #85
nathanmills wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE software

Inkscape is the only software that I see people get so defensive about when criticised. I even had the lead dev appear in my mentions and try and start fighting me on twitter when I complained on my own timeline about the performance on macOS. Weird culture

Would you like to name names? I don't think we have a lead dev currently.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#89

Post by Tommix11 »

I use 0.92 for extracting HPGL data from cutting machine software and converting it to better vector formats sometimes. I use that version because I think HPGL support was removed in newer versions. Inkscape is a great program, keep up the good work. Kind Regards A user

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#90

Post by sprucevoid »

darknavi wrote: post #80
chrismorgan wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just updated to 1.4.4 and it still looks to be drawing.svg.

It allows the user to change the default from drawning.svg, but that is still the default out of the box. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/7801

Thank you for creating this. Every small improvement counts :) I clicked through to add a request for a datestamp naming but happily someone had already posted that request https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/7801#n...
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