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Inkscape 1.4.4

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Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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Calligraphy pen/tool is still unusable, messy and less responsive (lower resolution, more angular, etc), much worse than in 0.92, and it's been this way ever since 1.0. It also now requires windows ink to be on, and they removed devices panel so you can't even tell if your device is recognized properly. It's bad with a tablet, but it's still just as bad and much worse in comparison even with the mouse. It's kinda dis…

Part of it would be solved in the next major release as you've seen in the issue. Another part would be fixing the tool itself which probably requires separate time and effort.

Mind you that Inkscape is being worked on by volunteers until very recently where there are 2 new contractors specifically for fixing bugs in 1.5.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#33

I love Inkscape. But their UX is getting worse with each release. I think they need another Blender-style overhaul

I wish they would consider Freehand/Virtuoso as an exemplar

What features of Freehand or Virtuoso would you like to see in Inkscape?

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#34
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE software

Firstly developers and designers of OSS need honest feedback from users as well, not just commercial developers. Secondly, how does being OSS justify significant regressions?

There seems to be pervasive opinion among FOSS enthusiasts that the software being free and volunteer made is kind of get out of jail card for not only criticism, but often simply just feedback.

I deeply appreciate that FOSS exists. But - subjective feeling - in general it always had certain reputation for jankiness and user unfriendliness. Sniping down feedback "because the software is free" certainly contributes to that perception. If I have a choice between free, volunteer made software that's unreliable or doesn't even work for some of my use cases, and a commercial, but non-free product, I will be pragmatic about it and choose the latter.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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post #21

Calligraphy pen/tool is still unusable, messy and less responsive (lower resolution, more angular, etc), much worse than in 0.92, and it's been this way ever since 1.0. It also now requires windows ink to be on, and they removed devices panel so you can't even tell if your device is recognized properly. It's bad with a tablet, but it's still just as bad and much worse in comparison even with the mouse. It's kinda dis…

Keep in mind that it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE software

I remember my car broke down, it was trash worth maybe 200 in scrap metal at the time. The tow to the yard was like 100 or something. I was screwed and couldn't get rides to work. My buddy lent me a car he had for free. I did not complain once to anyone about the things wrong with that car, and I never will. I even fixed some small issues with it to return the favor. The guy and that car saved my livelihood at the time.

I realize that's a little dramatic. I also think people are allowed to raise issues. But the entitlement and the way people talk about free software is annoying. Especially when alternatives cost as much as a used or new car.

If you have a Ferrari pallete for software then I hope there's an alternative that satisfies that for free, if so say so, otherwise shut up, contribute, or pay the Ferrari dollars already.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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post #34
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firstly developers and designers of OSS need honest feedback from users as well, not just commercial developers. Secondly, how does being OSS justify significant regressions?

There seems to be pervasive opinion among FOSS enthusiasts that the software being free and volunteer made is kind of get out of jail card for not only criticism, but often simply just feedback. I deeply appreciate that FOSS exists. But - subjective feeling - in general it always had certain reputation for jankiness and user unfriendliness. Sniping down feedback "because the software is free" certainly contributes to…

Criticism can be constructive. For understaffed teams, patches are even better.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#37
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE software

Firstly developers and designers of OSS need honest feedback from users as well, not just commercial developers. Secondly, how does being OSS justify significant regressions?

Because the authors don't owe you anything. You aren't giving them a single thing. They don't have to justify a thing. There is no SLA, no contract, nothing.

Feedback is fine, but there are so comments being things like "ermahgerd I paid nothing for this thing and a feature wasn't working What the actual F!". Go file an issue and fix it yourself buddy.

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#38
post #28
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Ah, the tool I love and hate. Mostly love though. Let me tell you about the single thing I hate: I open a simple hand-crafted SVG and want to make a simple change. It messes up all my formatting and uses its own weird formatting, with line breaks between attributes. I'd rather it at least put newlines between elements rather than between attributes. Ideally there'd be a "save with minimal edits from the original" but…

That's a pretty absurd complaint. Are you aware of any XML parser ever which preserves the plaintext formatting of the .xml file while magically inserting and modifying an arbitrary amount of XML data anywhere within the document? SVG is just XML. Save your file in Inkscape, and then run `tidy` on it, or whatever you like for format your XML with. (As a fellow hand-crafted XML fan, I feel your pain. But I also know w…

Well duh the inkscape team should write this feature just for them. For free of course lol. My god

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

#39
I have my first contribution to Inkscape in this release I think. It's quite a minor feature though, so I don't see it in the changelog. It allows the user to set their default saved file name. I was tired of drawing.svg :)

Re: Inkscape 1.4.4

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firstly developers and designers of OSS need honest feedback from users as well, not just commercial developers. Secondly, how does being OSS justify significant regressions?

Because the authors don't owe you anything. You aren't giving them a single thing. They don't have to justify a thing. There is no SLA, no contract, nothing. Feedback is fine, but there are so comments being things like "ermahgerd I paid nothing for this thing and a feature wasn't working What the actual F!". Go file an issue and fix it yourself buddy.

The feedback wasn't that though.

The worst thing they said was that it was "kinda disappointing". Which is perfectly valid. They really want to use inkscape but can't.

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