Vibe coding and agentic engineering are getting closer than I'd like

Post by necovek » Thu, May 07, 2026, 4:59 AM UTC

kyykky wrote: post #538

justech wrote: post #512

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I don’t think it’s going to burst like how other people expect. The technology is already out there, when it loses steam people aren’t suddenly going to stop using it. I predit it’ll be more like the dot come crash where companies that can survive the downturn come out dominant.

It ends like this: all codebases become unmaintainable spaghetti after agentic AI spends years on it. Then after every agent in existence will spend minimum 24 hours reading the codebase to add a simple feature, the software is abandoned.

Post by fragmede » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:06 AM UTC

jwpapi wrote: post #396

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #392

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> If I know the answer to all these questions, wiring it together takes me LESS time than passing it to Claude Code How so?

Like writing code to me is not slower than writing text? When I write code every character I type in my computer has less ambiguity than when I write it in human language? I also have the help of LSPs, Linters and Auto-completes.

Post by larodi » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:10 AM UTC

notnullorvoid wrote: post #528

ditchfieldcaleb wrote: post #495

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I agree with you on everything you said here except: > when you know how the thing works and have that mental context, you will always be faster than an AI That's just plain false, honestly. No one can type at the speed AI can code, even factoring in the time you need to spend to properly write out the spec & design rules the AI needs to follow when implementing your app/feature/whatever. And that gap will only incre…

Some of us do actually have intimate knowledge in certain areas where guidance of an AI takes longer than doing it yourself. It's not about typing speed, it's that when you know something really really well the solution/code is already known to you or the very act of thinking about the problem makes the solution known to you in full. When that happens it's less text to write that solution than it is to write a suffic…

Post by pjmlp » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:16 AM UTC

u8 wrote: post #440

The disconnect for AI is that it is a jagged frontier and it only really shines when one of its jagged frontiers extends counter to one of your valleys. If you've been writing Perl for 30 years, you might not want to learn JavaScript just to make a little fun idea in your head to show your wife. Vibe code that shit man. Who cares? Your wife does not care about LOC or those internal design decisions you made. If you'r…

Post by timschmidt » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:18 AM UTC

necovek wrote: post #559

lmeyerov wrote: post #548

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Maybe a failure to automate? The volume of people successfully adopting agentic engineering practices suggests this stuff isn't rocket science, but it is a learned skill and takes setup. A year later into heavy AI coding, my experience is what you're describing should aid in being able to run 5+ agents simultaneously on a project because you know what you're doing, you set it up right, and you know how to tell agents…

You seem to have missed OP's point: some things are only encoded in our brains when you are sufficiently experienced. Translating that into code can happen directly by you, or into prompt iterations that need to result in the same/similar coded representation. In other words, when it matters how something works and it is full of intricate details, you do not need to specify it, you just do it (eg. as an example which…