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Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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I'd rather have to do ID verification at a government site that gives out blindable RSA signatures to browse the web with using open source software, than this overseas tech company needing to lock down the whole device and tech stack and not have to 'show ID' at all. One of these two holds elections... Music/movie corporations and game developers must look forward to an age where people can't access the cache files…

One of them pretends to hold elections.

Which public corporation do you think doesn't hold elections?

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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You're right, we need big tech to protect us from the problems big tech created. In the olden 20th century, we had a term for that...

You know that protection racket where the mobster came to my corner store and says if I don't pay him he will come later and rough me up? This is a worse deal than that.

this is the modern version of that.

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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This is going to make my grapheneos journey a bit more exciting. How wild to force users through an official google identification for web browsing. Does the iPhone recaptcha app force you to login with a Google account? Seems we didn't need ID verification for the web to lose all anonymity.

I'd rather have to do ID verification at a government site that gives out blindable RSA signatures to browse the web with using open source software, than this overseas tech company needing to lock down the whole device and tech stack and not have to 'show ID' at all. One of these two holds elections... Music/movie corporations and game developers must look forward to an age where people can't access the cache files…

I'd rather have no ID verification at all. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

#195

yeah im not doing that

You don’t need to. As long as the dumb majority goes along with it, your options are to capitulate or get locked out of society.

Your only option is to sway the "dumb majority" in the other direction.

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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What if neither side represents your interests? What "election" is there in that case?

Simply live somewhere that doesn’t have a broken electoral system.

Like the Moon or Mars? The power is not something for the people for free.

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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I will be unable to solve the phone verification because I use LineageOS for microG, but any fraudster can just buy a bunch of $30 android phones. Many people have trouble using a smartphone, so they use dumbphones, but they will be locked out. Many people just don't have any mobile phone because they don't think that it is useful.

Google is mostly interested in abuse that happens beyond the scale of how many $30 phones you can buy.

I'm expecting a pretty hard identity verification requirement to connect to the internet, which should solve for the burner phone thing.

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

#199
post #57

Any company that requires me to scan a QR code to make a purchase is losing my purchase.

You would not last long in China ;) (you pay by scanning QR code in .. well, everywhere)

Thankfully I don't live in China. Unfortunately the totalitarian government is a larger concern than the QR codes.

Re: Google Cloud fraud defense, the next evolution of reCAPTCHA

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But what's the alternative? Sites need a way to prevent bots overwhelming them, and there's no perfect way to distinguish real users from bots.

Maybe ai companies should have invested any of those billions of dollars into safe and equitable ways of rolling out their new surveillance machines. Oh right that was never the point and this only serves to further that. Got it.

I think they'd be OK w/o the surveillance machine part of it, but they have never seemed to care about anything besides advancement of the tech or its side projects.

I can imagine a world where they were fighting for displaced workers, for Altman/Elon-suggested UBI/universal "high" income plans, and where they'd compensated those in the training set, and cut deals with publishers & content creators instead of scraping anything they could get their hands on. Would they be unpopular?

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