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DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by dominotw »

ern wrote: post #2

A few days ago we were hearing about how the "free lunch is over", now we're seeing discounts and increased usage limits.

there will be free lunch till they admit to themselves that there is no moat. Acquring customers at huge costs is a fools errand when models are mostly indisguishable.

Anthropic is learning that lesson now. Doesnt help that their ceo goes around antognozing everyone by claiming jobs are over and annoying boris does like 500 podcasts per week repeating "coding is solved"

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by mannanj »

ern wrote: post #2

A few days ago we were hearing about how the "free lunch is over", now we're seeing discounts and increased usage limits.

Free lunch? More like "free data". The fools who give their life data and most intimate Intellectual property over to the AI companies for free, yes that's a free lunch that won't be subsidized for much longer when the cost on them which has been unsustainable (their data being harvested for non-training purposes) come stop catch up with them.

Sincerely, - I see you AI companies harvesting our data giving us discounted subscriptions so we can not realize we are paying you to take our own data!

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by yehosef »

ottomanbob wrote: post #16
yehosef wrote: post #7

Is anyone concerned about these services and China’s National Intelligence Law?

I mean I can't believe I have to say this explicitly but it should be assumed that any data you send to China can and will be used against our interest by the CCP...

Yes! The only saving grace is that they have so many secrets, mine are not so important.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

serf wrote: post #28
2ndorderthought wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool go download qwen 3.6 and run it on a single GPU and you can avoid paying into a subsidized model

why are we pretending these are equivalents? yes, single gpu open models exist. Now show me the one that can keep up with a SOTA api model on more than short code block evals.

Qwen 3.6 supports reasonable agentic programming. People are vibe coding with it. It's really not that far off. If you truly cannot make a model that was SOTA 6-12 months ago work for you today for free I don't want to know what your needs are.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by serf »

splatzone wrote: post #4
ttul wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* from Chinese labs

What advantage do you think they have?

a lack of existential threat in the form of pay-seeking and remediation from the people you stole training materials from that allows for an intrinsically different pace of operation than the Western competition

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by mannanj »

martin_henk wrote: post #9
yehosef wrote: post #7

Is anyone concerned about these services and China’s National Intelligence Law?

yes. imagine getting denied at the border or something because of data you shared with deep seek,WeChat or any other china centric service

the US does that to you too, for not liking your opinions about particular parties or intelligence aparati.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by deevus »

I've been using DeepSeek V4 a lot in the last week and I am very happy with it. If you have a really gnarly bug, you might need a SOTA model like Opus. For most things it is very very good, and costs significantly less (even without the discount).

I've been using it as part of a complex DOS game decompilation project[0]. I'm working on refactoring the software rendering pipeline so that we can add GPU rendering. The hardest part of this so far is converting the 90's polygon rendering from screen to world space.

It spun its wheels a few times doing a large mostly mechanical change. After resetting and improving my prompts it was able to get through it. I'm using Matt Pocock's skills[1] for this work, which has been quite nice.

[0]: https://github.com/FatalDecomp/ROLLER

[1]: https://github.com/mattpocock/skills

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by yehosef »

wxw wrote: post #32

Per 1M tokens (input cache hit / input cache miss / output) v4-pro (75% off): $0.003625 / $0.435 / $0.87 v4-pro (regular): $0.0145 / $1.74 / $3.48 v4-flash: $0.0028 / $0.14 / $0.28 that is damn cheap.

You are the product. The book is called "So long, and thanks for all the secrets"

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May

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Post by [deleted] »

serf wrote: post #28
2ndorderthought wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool go download qwen 3.6 and run it on a single GPU and you can avoid paying into a subsidized model

why are we pretending these are equivalents? yes, single gpu open models exist. Now show me the one that can keep up with a SOTA api model on more than short code block evals.

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