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DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is clearly a well-timed loss-leading strategic market share grab! Anthropic have blown a lot of user trust in the last couple of months.. But, overall, the current AI pricing is completely unsustainable, across all AI companies, except via the exponential growth they are relying on. Dylan Patel did the most insightful analysis of this I've come across.. https://youtu.be/mDG_Hx3BSUE?si=nyJu4adwYCH1igbJ
Really feel like the current versions are for sure "good enough". Thats not how market capture is gonna function though and they are gonna keep pushing because the only moat is to stay ahead, so the problems gonna stay strange. at some point more compute isn't a reasonable answer, and optimization is, and my feeling is we are well past that point from a product perspective, but ipos etc etc
The only moat is the us trying to buy all the compute hardware in the world for the next two years. Then China, amd, etc are just making their own chips.
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May
#23A few days ago we were hearing about how the "free lunch is over", now we're seeing discounts and increased usage limits.
I'm guessing there was a pullback in usage as the free lunch started ending. So we get some more subsidized usage.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
What advantage do you think they have?
I’m not happy with their privacy policy [1]. I’m unfamiliar with the phrase “Parties with Other Legal Rights”. Given the well-documented struggles of Anthropic and others to provide enough compute, I wonder if “Parties with Other Legal Rights” constitutes part of the advantage here. [1]: https://cdn.deepseek.com/policies/en-US/deepseek-privacy-pol...
Just run a local model or run deepseek from another provider with a policy you like. The models are open weight and widely available. Still cheaper than chatgpt and anything else through 3rd parties
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're subsidized by the Chinese government! https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/deepseek-nears-45...
Cool go download qwen 3.6 and run it on a single GPU and you can avoid paying into a subsidized model
why are we pretending these are equivalents?
yes, single gpu open models exist. Now show me the one that can keep up with a SOTA api model on more than short code block evals.
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#29Is anyone concerned about these services and China’s National Intelligence Law?
yes. imagine getting denied at the border or something because of data you shared with deep seek,WeChat or any other china centric service
Are you actually planning on travelling out of the country right now? It's probably not a good idea even if you don't use Chinese products, which by the way you definitely do.
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#30Is anyone concerned about these services and China’s National Intelligence Law?
No because China can only do so much to me as someone who doesn't live there and never will. It's the same reason why I prefer vpns that are owned by countries outside my own.
Unless you're very careful, it's trivial to have my secrets to be sent to the LLM. If it reads your .env just to see the variable names, the secrets have been sent to the servers. Now - they probably don't care about you and your secrets - but it makes me more uncomfortable that they have them.
This is true of anthropic or openai - but for some reason I think the us govt or anyone else will have a harder time getting to my data from them than the CCP will any chinese company.