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Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by vablings »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #137
vablings wrote: post #81

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I highly doubt it for a number of factors. - Most of his dives look to be rec depth - He isn't running any crazy gear like a CCR - He has instant access to a chamber, so any DCS worries are virtually zero - There is no go-itis for him. If weather is bad, he just packs up and sails to somewhere nicer Out of all the rich people hobbies, scuba is about the safest

Scuba diving is a pretty risky activity on the scale of things that rich people do in their everyday life. Golf and cycling are a lot safer. Scuba fatalities fall into a few buckets, the big two are inexperience/bad decision making, and older folks with health issues (underwater heart attacks/respiratory distress, basically). As a former dive pro, an overweight 63 year old is someone that I would keep a very close ey…

It's not that risky Scuba diving is about as dangerous as driving in terms of fatality per 100,000. The mitigation of this risk is different too. Theoretically if you do everything correct in scuba your chance of death is virtually zero which means that your risk profile decreases with experience. Driving does not enjoy the same luxury you could be a perfect driver and get obliterated by a semi-truck running a red light at any time.

The most common reason people die while on scuba is running out of air, if you always buddy and you have a bail-out cylinder that should be essentially impossible while rec diving

"but there is a reason that many life insurance companies exclude scuba divers from their coverage."

They will refuse to cover you outside of rec diving because of all the reasons I just stated

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Post by foresto »

FloatArtifact wrote: post #194
jvanderbot wrote: post #140

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I'm endorsing my side. Not Steam's side, or the creator's side. Maybe their business model is awful, but I love what they do, and what they have done. They have made my linux machine a top tier gaming option, freeing me from the only use of windows left. They have brought me the steam deck, which has a thriving accessory market due to their creative commons licensing. Etc etc. They are pro consumer. I want steam to c…

Regarding the 30% cut. Developers can actually generate steam keys and publish them on third-party sites which can be redeemed by users on Steam. Developers then get 100% of the profit.

Are the developers allowed to sell those keys for less than the Steam price?

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Post by jandrese »

bluGill wrote: post #53
embedding-shape wrote: post #10

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Going a step further, imagine hardware manufacturers noticing specific defects, then publishing new updated CAD files for a part that lasts better than the last, for customers who already have 3D printers to print their own upgrades/"patches".

That can work, but 3d printing doesn't in general make for strong parts (layers). Most of the time you want some form of molding or CNC subtractive machining (either plastic of metal) - while some hobbyists have this, 3d printing is far more common. (and often easier)

You might be surprised at how durable FDM parts can be if you know what you're doing, especially if you're willing to blow a some extra filament on making it solid. Orient the layer lines perpendicular to the sheer forces and it can be stronger than the original molded part.

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Post by chowells »

retired wrote: post #110
poisonborz wrote: post #29

Even if Valve and Steam is great and overall a blessing for the PC space, I don't like the direction they take with this controller. It only works with Steam, it can't work on a desktop OS without it, despite standard layout. It is a subtle move towards a walled garden.

I'm getting an 8BitDo controller because of the Steam lock-in on the Steam Controller. I can use the 8BitDo on all of my hardware without having to install software. It doesn't have the trackpads but for the rest is a very solid controller and also has Hall effect joysticks.

The Steam controller doesn't have Hall effect sticks; they're TMR. Also, my 8bitdo controller does need special software to use a couple buttons on it. And it's the cheapest possible model, not a super advanced one. It just has more buttons than xinput supports.

This isn't to say that you're wrong about your main point. Steam is heavyweight to use just as an input profile selector at application launch. But you should be careful about details if you choose to include them.

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Post by artyom »

herpdyderp wrote: post #8
roer wrote: post #4

I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each. Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Contro…

Sometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.

It's the other way around.

Valve is the company where we spend a lot of money and they deserve it.

The rest is companies that trick people into giving them money (battlepass! lootboxes!) and they don't deserve it.

People often forget that consumers as a whole are the ones holding the power, and the sad part is that rewarding a company with a good product with your money stopped being the business model and it's now the exception.

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Post by denkmoon »

herpdyderp wrote: post #8
roer wrote: post #4

I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each. Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Contro…

Sometimes I wonder what we did to deserve Valve and how long it can possibly last.

A triumph of private ownership and stewardship over publicly traded corporate governance.

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Post by ThatPlayer »

ranger207 wrote: post #88
raincole wrote: post #66

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Wait, really? So if you have two copies of the same game, one bought from Steam and the other from Epic Store, Steam Controller will only work for the Steam one?

The controller will work with Steam running in the background

It's a bit more complicated than that (on Windows) because Steam doesn't make a virtual gamepad to the OS. The way Steam handles the input is by hooking into the games individually. So to use Steam for other games, you need to add them to Steam as non-steam games.

Even open source controller remapping tools (not just Steam Controller) and similar used ViGEmBus which is no longer maintained. You can have it do mouse/keyboard though, those don't require custom drivers.

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Post by thrownthatway »

SXX wrote: post #127
thrownthatway wrote: post #68

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That was 9 years ago. Are they compliant in the Australian market now?

They are, but they only implemented proper refunds after being pushed by Australia.

How long do you plan on holding that against them?

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Post by drakythe »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #132
drakythe wrote: post #84

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As someone else said, the driver is in Steam, not SteamOS. Even on a Steam Deck you have to run Steam in desktop mode to have the buttons on the deck work.

> Even on a Steam Deck you have to run Steam in desktop mode to have the buttons on the deck work. That's not true. You get a reduced functionality controller with trackpads that can still be used to start steam back up.

Its been a minute since I've been on desktop mode, but aren't they just a trackpad at that point and none of the button/haptic functionality exists outside of moving the mouse and clicking?
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