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#4 largest private land owner in the US: https://landreport.com/land-report-100#top-100 Wonder what's going to be done with it now that he's dead.

Jane Fonda was his last spouse. I hope he left it to her. She's a very cool lady with a great head on her shoulders. A recent interview (The Interview, NYT) is worth listening to. She talked very positive about Ted in this interview, which made me think they had a good relationship still.

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#4 largest private land owner in the US: https://landreport.com/land-report-100#top-100 Wonder what's going to be done with it now that he's dead.

I was a Boy Scout growing up and the Philmont Ranch is a destination for hiking and backpacking situated on his property. Twi weeks of backpacking through that wilderness was a formative experience for me, and I hope future generations aren't deprived of the opportunity to enjoy it.

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Ted Turner owned the largest American Bison herd (~45k animals), supplying meat for his "Ted's Montana Grill" restaurants. I don't know much else about the man, but as a supporter of Bison I can commend that part of his legacy. An impressive vision and execution.

>as a supporter of Bison... I'm not sure I've run into a 'supporter' of a particular type of bovine before. Why? Bison are surely pretty comparable on a lbs mass to methane released ratio when fed with the same diets that cattle are.

other bovines didn't get to near-extinction and spring back after years of remediation and lobbying efforts, the American bison did.

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It's funny to me that, whenever these uber-rich old ghouls that were widely despised like 40 years ago die, they're remembered fondly, simply because we have much, much worse rich old ghouls now.

Besides the questionable ethics of billionaires in general, I'd say Turner's biggest blunder was inventing the 24 hour news cycle, which has since been used to push a lot awful stuff that Ted himself probably found pretty distasteful.

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Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

This is like being surprised that the Obama the Obama Presidential Library is about is Barack Obama.

Obama is also a lot more recently known and a more unique sounding name

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Jane Fonda was his last spouse. I hope he left it to her. She's a very cool lady with a great head on her shoulders. A recent interview (The Interview, NYT) is worth listening to. She talked very positive about Ted in this interview, which made me think they had a good relationship still.

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She was early, consistent, vocal, brave, and in the light of history morally right in her opposition to the Vietnam War.

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Because the person who killed then for a profit also paid to have them exist, gave them a home and food. In wanting to eat bison meat, he paid to have more bison exist, so there are more bison than if he hadn't killed some of them for eating.

I 100% agree. However, I do think there is room for discussion for someone to ask is that a good thing? It is good if there is more of them if they only exist to be killed? I don't think things like this are black and white. If they only existed in the worst conditions in factory farms my answer would be no. If they can live a good life and be slaughtered humanely my answer would be yes. I think it's easy to dismiss…

it's hard to argue that decreased genetic diversity will help humans. Maybe we don't need hundreds of thousands of new exotic huge bovines to shit methane into the air all day every day, but it should be seen as fairly vital that we try to keep genetic diversity as high as we can in order to maximize future opportunities that may arise from research and development for the sake of humanity.

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Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

This is like being surprised that the Obama the Obama Presidential Library is about is Barack Obama.

Won’t you be surprised to finally learn about the precursor band to Canadian legends The Guess Who: Barackman Turner Overdrive

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Jane Fonda was his last spouse. I hope he left it to her. She's a very cool lady with a great head on her shoulders. A recent interview (The Interview, NYT) is worth listening to. She talked very positive about Ted in this interview, which made me think they had a good relationship still.

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