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Re: Ted Turner has died

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

fragmede wrote: post #96
PretzelPirate wrote: post #69

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> but as a supporter of Bison If you support Bison, why commend someone who killed them for a profit?

Because the person who killed then for a profit also paid to have them exist, gave them a home and food. In wanting to eat bison meat, he paid to have more bison exist, so there are more bison than if he hadn't killed some of them for eating.

I 100% agree. However, I do think there is room for discussion for someone to ask is that a good thing? It is good if there is more of them if they only exist to be killed? I don't think things like this are black and white. If they only existed in the worst conditions in factory farms my answer would be no. If they can live a good life and be slaughtered humanely my answer would be yes. I think it's easy to dismiss comments like the one you responded to, but I would argue it's always good to think about these things.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

ranger_danger wrote: post #32
ap99 wrote: post #11

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"For some reason" is that people do not watch it. Once you get a taste of "bad" it dominates.

Maybe for some people, but I see no reason we shouldn't seek out and show good news... I think it makes people happier.

Good news is much easier to fake.

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

mekdoonggi wrote: post #88
foolfoolz wrote: post #44

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how do you own a herd

This comment is low-effort, but in the case you are genuinely confused, the herd refers to the animals on a given ranch. As in, you have a ranch of 100 acres and 100 bison on it. The owner of the ranch owns a herd of 100. The bison aren't roaming free on the land. It would be nice if they were, and there are efforts to restore wild bison herds, but these are commercial herds. Far better than cows and CAFOs.

I don't know, but I wonder if your parent commenter is making a philosophical point about the potentially illusory nature of owning a group of semi-wild animals. Like, if the only way you have of asserting your ownership is to use them as a food source, then do you really "own" them? Or do they exist outside and apart from human ideas of property?

Or like owning a mountain or a centuries-old tree. Does that even mean anything?

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Post by Lammy »

foolfoolz wrote: post #44
mekdoonggi wrote: post #42

Ted Turner owned the largest American Bison herd (~45k animals), supplying meat for his "Ted's Montana Grill" restaurants. I don't know much else about the man, but as a supporter of Bison I can commend that part of his legacy. An impressive vision and execution.

how do you own a herd

Here's some good slice of life for you: https://www.youtube.com/@CrossTimbersBison

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Post by e40 »

joecool1029 wrote: post #90

#4 largest private land owner in the US: https://landreport.com/land-report-100#top-100 Wonder what's going to be done with it now that he's dead.

Jane Fonda was his last spouse. I hope he left it to her. She's a very cool lady with a great head on her shoulders. A recent interview (The Interview, NYT) is worth listening to. She talked very positive about Ted in this interview, which made me think they had a good relationship still.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

mc32 wrote: post #99
superfrank wrote: post #76

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Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

There was a bit of a furore when he tried colorizing old B&W movies… imagine if he’d had AI to do colorization, upscaling and sharpening back then! Guess we’ll still have Ted’s Montana Grills for a while…

Rightfully so if you ask me. Out the gate think about the implications of determining, say, skin color. I’m not saying “under no circumstances should it be done” but I also think people don’t appreciate the importance of the decisions made and the politics/implicit biases under the hood. I’m not even getting in to artistic intent and impact on lighting here either.

Colorizing b&w images is still debated to this day.

Re: Ted Turner has died

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Post by Bratmon »

superfrank wrote: post #76
lubujackson wrote: post #24

I remember around 2000 I read about how Ted Turner started his empire: he bought podunk local TV stations that had loose contracts with media owners that allowed them to broadcast shows as often as they wanted, with no restrictions. In the those days, local TV stations were broadcast just like radio and so the assumption was the contract only concerned the audience the TV station's antenna could reach. But the contra…

Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

This is like being surprised that the Obama the Obama Presidential Library is about is Barack Obama.
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