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Re: Ted Turner has died

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Post by SoftTalker »

superfrank wrote: post #76
lubujackson wrote: post #24

I remember around 2000 I read about how Ted Turner started his empire: he bought podunk local TV stations that had loose contracts with media owners that allowed them to broadcast shows as often as they wanted, with no restrictions. In the those days, local TV stations were broadcast just like radio and so the assumption was the contract only concerned the audience the TV station's antenna could reach. But the contra…

Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

Also the "T" in TBS, originally WTCG in Atlanta that became "superstation" WTBS (later dropping the leading W).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_TBS_(American_TV_ch...

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Post by mc32 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #109
mc32 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a bit of a furore when he tried colorizing old B&W movies… imagine if he’d had AI to do colorization, upscaling and sharpening back then! Guess we’ll still have Ted’s Montana Grills for a while…

Rightfully so if you ask me. Out the gate think about the implications of determining, say, skin color. I’m not saying “under no circumstances should it be done” but I also think people don’t appreciate the importance of the decisions made and the politics/implicit biases under the hood. I’m not even getting in to artistic intent and impact on lighting here either. Colorizing b&w images is still debated to this day.

Eh regarding skin color people don’t care about realism these days. You have historical remakes with totally anachronistic ethnicities in them and “no one” cares.

I mean sure, some people do, the same as some people used to complain about overrepresentation of caucasians in some old movies set in what was then called “the orient”. I think the only ones who put up a fight are the Japanese who don’t like their productions ethnically misrepresented as much.

B&W highlights the stories better. With color you get more ambient context and sometimes that’s interesting.

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Post by idiotsecant »

mekdoonggi wrote: post #42

Ted Turner owned the largest American Bison herd (~45k animals), supplying meat for his "Ted's Montana Grill" restaurants. I don't know much else about the man, but as a supporter of Bison I can commend that part of his legacy. An impressive vision and execution.

>as a supporter of Bison...

I'm not sure I've run into a 'supporter' of a particular type of bovine before.

Why?

Bison are surely pretty comparable on a lbs mass to methane released ratio when fed with the same diets that cattle are.

Re: Ted Turner has died

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Post by SoftTalker »

jimt1234 wrote: post #56
JSR_FDED wrote: post #3

I remember CNN bursting onto the scene. It was revolutionary. Although there was never (even today) enough news to fill a 24hr period. Just endless repeats of the same block of news.

I also remember when CNN first appeared. I was a kid, but I recall people (adults, Boomers) sort of rejected it at first. I think there was a trust issue, not just with CNN, but cable-TV in general. But yeah, I recall people thinking CNN was a passing fad, like it would fail in a year or so because people liked/trusted the local broadcasters and network anchors they'd known for most of their lives.

I just remember it as a channel you could bring up that always had the top headlines right now. Yes they would repeat a lot of it every 15-30 minutes but if you didn't want to wait for the national TV news at 6:00pm you could just turn on CNN and feel informed. It was also the start of people getting addicted to the need to know everything all the time, later amplified 100x by the rise of the internet and mobile phones/media. I remember some people getting addicted to CNN, just had it on all the time.

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Post by asveikau »

Bratmon wrote: post #110
superfrank wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

This is like being surprised that the Obama the Obama Presidential Library is about is Barack Obama.

I had a chuckle at your comment and felt it was true. But wonder if the commenter is younger. Ted Turner was much more of a household name and public figure in the 20th century. He became less involved in the cable empire by the mid 90s. Younger millennials and onwards probably heard people talk about him a lot less.

Ps. Another memorable media portrayal of Turner, he was clearly the basis for the boss character in the 1994 cartoon The Critic.

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Post by asciimov »

mc32 wrote: post #99
superfrank wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. It wasn't until I read your comment that it clicked that the Turner in Turner Classic Movies is Ted Turner.

There was a bit of a furore when he tried colorizing old B&W movies… imagine if he’d had AI to do colorization, upscaling and sharpening back then! Guess we’ll still have Ted’s Montana Grills for a while…

Those colorized movies were awful, AI would have just made them awful in their own way.

Outside of film restoration, old movies should be enjoyed the way they were made.

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Post by maxerickson »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #105
mekdoonggi wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is low-effort, but in the case you are genuinely confused, the herd refers to the animals on a given ranch. As in, you have a ranch of 100 acres and 100 bison on it. The owner of the ranch owns a herd of 100. The bison aren't roaming free on the land. It would be nice if they were, and there are efforts to restore wild bison herds, but these are commercial herds. Far better than cows and CAFOs.

I don't know, but I wonder if your parent commenter is making a philosophical point about the potentially illusory nature of owning a group of semi-wild animals. Like, if the only way you have of asserting your ownership is to use them as a food source, then do you really "own" them? Or do they exist outside and apart from human ideas of property? Or like owning a mountain or a centuries-old tree. Does that even mean…

Owning is, like, a human construct man. If you can slaughter a herd of animals without facing any human imposed consequences, it's probably fair within the bounds of language and meaning to say that you own them.

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Post by floxy »

joecool1029 wrote: post #90

#4 largest private land owner in the US: https://landreport.com/land-report-100#top-100 Wonder what's going to be done with it now that he's dead.

I wonder what ever happened with the stream poisoning effort on a creek that ran through his ranch. That was bit of a thing growing-up back in Montana in the 90s, where the billionaire outsider wanted to poison the stream to kill off one species of fish to encourage another species.

https://www.rangemagazine.com/archives/stories/winter00/murk...

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Post by rao-v »

There is a good case to be made that he (rather impulsively) caused more impactful charitable giving than any other person.

He essentially created the modern “billionaire giving to global causes” movement by deciding to donate a billion dollars during a speech.

https://x.com/NickKristof/status/2052038692949406188?s=20

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