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Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by mghackerlady »

legitster wrote: post #83
hatsunearu wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Valve wasn't always like this. They were infamous for never allowing refunds, but due to EU regulations they just did a complete about face and has one of the friendliest refund policies in the ESD business. Probably just behind Costco or something.

The introduction of the refund made them get rid of their deep discounted flash sales though. Real OGs remember that you could get fairly new AAA games for a song on, like, a random Wednesday. It was part of the initial appeal of Steam. Those explicitly went away because of the refund policy. https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/4pnd4p/psa_yes_there... (People were really upset at the time) Their new refund policy…

They still have absolutely massive sales, they just aren't random anymore.

At least personally, I'd prefer having to wait a few months and having a good refund policy over more sales

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

roer wrote: post #4

I love the readme on the gitlab page [1]. It feels so.. friendly :) > This repository contains CAD files for the external shell (surface topology) of Steam Controller and the Steam Controller Puck, under a Creative Commons license. This includes an STP model of each, an STL model of each, and an engineering drawing with critical features/keep outs for each. Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Contro…

I love steam. I have a lot of concerns with a lot of the companies shuffling billions around. But not steam. They treat everyone fair.

The gambling thing is whack but at least it's not polymarket.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by flumpcakes »

bluetidepro wrote: post #25
KumaBear wrote: post #3

If only scalpers didn’t scoop up every unit

I don't fully understand this narrative that is going around about scalpers and the controller. So many people online are claiming it was only scalpers who were able to purchase one. I am also not a scalper (as someone else said), and was able to purchase one. We don't know how many they actually had in stock in total but let's say it's around 30K, from what I have searched on eBay and other reselling sites it would…

I managed to buy one, I also have no intention to sell it anytime soon. I do wish there were better protections against scalpers though, they are a blight.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by [deleted] »

bsimpson wrote: post #54
poisonborz wrote: post #29

Even if Valve and Steam is great and overall a blessing for the PC space, I don't like the direction they take with this controller. It only works with Steam, it can't work on a desktop OS without it, despite standard layout. It is a subtle move towards a walled garden.

I'm not sure that's Valve's fault. Windows is designed for gamepads to emulate an Xbox controller. All those Steam Deck competitors are implemented as an Xbox controller with a partial keyboard grafted on. That's why you need Legion Space or Armoury Crate to make them usable - they tell the controller firmware what keybindings to send for those rear paddles. InputPlumber serves this purpose on Linux. Without it, you…

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Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #85
Hikikomori wrote: post #72

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How about charging for services rendered based on cost to produce them rather than some arbitrary number. Some effective competition would be good, but likely outcome is publishers taking more.

I never understood people who argue steam doesn’t have real competition. The number of fully funded attempts to compete with steam is impressive. Steam has more competition than any other of the major app stores. Steam also had to provide additional value over pre-existing methods of installing games on the PC in a way the Android Play Store or the PlayStation Store did not have to.

It is incredible how much the other stores fumbled the implementation. As a rule, Epic, Origin, etc apps were terrible. Laggy, bad UI, sometimes difficult to even complete a purchase.

You would have thought that close relationship with the games industry- someone must know how to make a high performance native application. Yet it always felt like web developers pumping out another half assed Electron platform. The Steam store must generate billions in revenue -put some real manpower behind the engineering.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by SXX »

kay_o wrote: post #80
jdoe1337halo wrote: post #62

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I agree that 30% is too large of a cut, but what would be appropriate? 15%? Steam does add a ton of value from an immediate audience, solid advertising opportunities, and amazing distribution for the developer.

As that has done both sides of games, I would like to propose some doubts for people to consider on that is dissimilar to the standard b2b saas; for to clarity I'm not saying 30% is good - One chargeback for your 5$ game can consume you 55$ or more, handful and you permanently lose the ability to accept the payment anywhere including future businesses outside of games - Amount of people that will take parents cards i…

> They don't take flat 30% for almost a decade now

Yes Valve is very generous.

They take MORE from developers who make LESS money. I sure bottom 98% of developers never sell above $10,000,000 to decrease cut from 30% to 25%.

Very few indie devs or small indie studios ever sell over 50,000-100,000 copies.

PS: In practice if your project funded by publisher it means that you as developer will make less money from a game than Valve.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by kay_o »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #100
kay_o wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As that has done both sides of games, I would like to propose some doubts for people to consider on that is dissimilar to the standard b2b saas; for to clarity I'm not saying 30% is good - One chargeback for your 5$ game can consume you 55$ or more, handful and you permanently lose the ability to accept the payment anywhere including future businesses outside of games - Amount of people that will take parents cards i…

> One chargeback for your 5$ game can consume you 55$ or more, handful and you permanently lose the ability to accept the payment anywhere including future businesses outside of games This sounds like personal experience. Can you elaborate? Edit: OHH perhaps you are saying this is one of the benefits of Steam; that it shields you from all this.

> Edit: OHH perhaps you are saying this is one of the benefits of Steam; that it shields you from all this.

Yes. In a sijmilar way: regular companies get Stripe at commodity pricing, games get xsolla, paysafe, tebex, and a massive compliance questionnaire, games are software (to you) but closer to porn or gambling on risk (to MoRs and processors).

People are less "likely" to charge back Steam because of their other games being frozen and Steam has volume to dilute chargebacks whereas you starting out may hit double digit dispute rates in one. Whether this is fair is an exercise best left to the reader ;.

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Post by maccard »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #100
kay_o wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As that has done both sides of games, I would like to propose some doubts for people to consider on that is dissimilar to the standard b2b saas; for to clarity I'm not saying 30% is good - One chargeback for your 5$ game can consume you 55$ or more, handful and you permanently lose the ability to accept the payment anywhere including future businesses outside of games - Amount of people that will take parents cards i…

> One chargeback for your 5$ game can consume you 55$ or more, handful and you permanently lose the ability to accept the payment anywhere including future businesses outside of games This sounds like personal experience. Can you elaborate? Edit: OHH perhaps you are saying this is one of the benefits of Steam; that it shields you from all this.

Yeah - steam handle this for you.

Re: Valve releases Steam Controller CAD files under Creative Commons license

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Post by para_parolu »

nananana9 wrote: post #56
benoau wrote: post #19

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We let kids gamble so much money in games that they don't have to nickel and dime the adults.

They also nickel and dime the adults, but only the ones who make the games. It's fine though, because they're nice to players and they've brainwashed them into giving their money to Valve instead of to the developers who actually make the games they fucking play.

All distribution channels that existed before steam are still available. Multiple competitors to steam are available.

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Post by tyg13 »

iknowstuff wrote: post #73
bluetidepro wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't fully understand this narrative that is going around about scalpers and the controller. So many people online are claiming it was only scalpers who were able to purchase one. I am also not a scalper (as someone else said), and was able to purchase one. We don't know how many they actually had in stock in total but let's say it's around 30K, from what I have searched on eBay and other reselling sites it would…

It’s hard to participate in any gaming communities because you quickly realize they’re all kids who have no idea about markets but they all talk like foremost experts on every subject

I don't think you can really escape this anywhere online. Hacker News has the same problem, really.
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