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Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by xattt »

voxelghost wrote: post #56
throwaway2037 wrote: post #53

I checked the specs here: https://www.micron.com/content/dam/micron/global/public/prod... The interface looks equiv to 4x PCIe 5.0. > Sequential read (MB/s): 13,700 > Sequential write (MB/s): 2,700 That is pretty awful write performance. Does anyone know more about this? I assume all of these hyperdense SSDs suffer from the same drawback. Also, I heard that the E3.L interface can support up to 16x lanes, but there ar…

65 hours to restore a full backup

Yes, but with all that data, how much heavier does it get?

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by r_lee »

mikestorrent wrote: post #11
el_snark wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They haven't released details but I was able to find a Solidigm D5-P5336 122.88TB drive for around 40,000 USD, as a guideline. So ... more than that.

I was quoted $18K for a 3.7 TB Dell NVMe disk the other day. I'm gonna guess these drives are literally a quarter million each

> I was quoted $18K for a 3.7 TB Dell NVMe disk

surely you don't actually think that's realistic pricing?

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by therealmarv »

Meanwhile I'm still dreaming about any consumer and affordable 32TB or even 16TB portable SSD. Innovation and market for consumers are going backwards.

Funny thing is that one of the best you can get is the Crucial (Micron) 8TB one but even that one gets more expensive. I have the feeling it will be gone completely soon.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by pjc50 »

brancz wrote: post #17
omeysalvi wrote: post #12

Can someone who knows explain what is the benefit of having all that data in one ssd instead of splitting it up into hundreds of individual drives? Does the single ssd benefit is more performance or does it really tuen out to be cheaper than hundreds of individual drives?

It’s about density in a datacenter. With this you have 1PB in 4 drives, fitting in a 1u rack, which is just incredible. Also these drives don’t use regular SATA or SAS, they use PCIe, so these drives are also quite fast in comparison. Density has a power efficiency aspect as well both in just having fewer drives and requiring fewer servers to put drives into.

For when you need to store a copy of the internet, and have been granted immunity for your copy of Anna's Archive.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by delamon »

cm2187 wrote: post #50
delamon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

QLC retention reported to be around 1 year in unpowered state. I would assume, that drive does background refresh, though. No idea what effect it has on total drive lifetime. It is still mean that if you use it for cold storage it has to be powered.

Why is it mean? Why would you want to use a technology that is unsuitable for cold storage for cold storage? You won't even get the power / IOPS benefit if all it does is an infrequent replication of data and is then switched off.

What kind of usage do you envision for 245TB drive with read speed of 3GB/sec?

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by stingraycharles »

cm2187 wrote: post #47
speedgoose wrote: post #21

I look forward to have my favourite hyperscaler grant me 1000 "premium" IOPS per VM on this monster.

IOPS? This thing has slower IOPS than an old SATA SSD (~40k / QLC). I think it is meant for sequential operations only.

What’s the intended block size of these things? I thought 4KB was normal, but that doesn’t make sense at 40K IOPS, and doesn’t align with the benchmarks I’ve seen.

Also: price is expected to be $80k. I suppose density is the selling point here, not speed.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by XorNot »

Aboutplants wrote: post #66

“For AI workloads: The 245TB Micron 6600 ION provided up to 84 times better energy efficiency” How big of a deal is this part in relation to the initial upfront costs? I’m not privy to the cost of power for SSD

It means you don't have as much to cool.

Getting rid of 30 watts of heat is trivial compared to say, 300 (I don't quite know how to read that ratio since a 2.5kW SSD seems a little high to me).

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Post by feisty0630 »

XorNot wrote: post #69
Aboutplants wrote: post #66

“For AI workloads: The 245TB Micron 6600 ION provided up to 84 times better energy efficiency” How big of a deal is this part in relation to the initial upfront costs? I’m not privy to the cost of power for SSD

It means you don't have as much to cool. Getting rid of 30 watts of heat is trivial compared to say, 300 (I don't quite know how to read that ratio since a 2.5kW SSD seems a little high to me).

Given that 2.91TB SSDs are a common enterprise size, perhaps they're saying the 1x245TB SSD uses 1/84 the power of 84 2.91TB SSDs ;p
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