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Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
#183Excellent tool for scammers.
Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
#184I don't understand the pessimism here. You never know the use cases for quickly and automatically rotating domains. There have always been bots, spammers and scammers. I'm interested to see what people build with this.
Maybe something like this?
AI agent calls a human on their phone (even engage in an email chain), whilst talking to the human they analyse the likelyhood of diffferent fraud vectors, and choose the most likely one to work on this particular victim. Whilst keeping the human talking in chit chat to raise their confidence levels, in the background it buys a domain which fits the users fraud profile, and quickly makes a basic website on it. Maybe its a fake login page, maybe it just hosts malware, who knows at this point. The agent then emails the user from a mailbox on the new domain which directs the user to the new domain and commits the fraud. The email from the domain ties up with what the agent is saying on the phone, so it all looks legit to the human. Immediately after the call it deletes the website, directs the new domains dns to blackhole and discards it from its posession.
This is all possible right now. I am also interested to see what is built with this technology in the future, but interested in a very worried way.
Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
#185I'd be interested in how this could be used. The $100 cap is the right shape of mitigation in terms of guardrails. Buying a domain is irreversible but has a price tag, so you can deterministically bound how irreversible it gets.
Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
#186This is an API. They now allow users to create accounts, buy domains and deploy from their api instead of going on the website. That's great. I am not sure I understand why all this complex protocol is needed though, especially now that you can generate a cli with a prompt.
A cli application is less complex than an API you send the literal string "POST /some/api" to?
I meant a cli is essentially a wrapper around an API, you are right it is less complex than a direct call. My point was that now there is an API you can call with this CLI, or a cli you vibecode yourself to call the API or you can call the API directly. Where before you probably could not create an account without going on the website manually. They now have a programming interface to more features of their services. But their cli still feel too complex with the stripe protocol integration. As said in other comments, I probably only want to create an account and register a domain every once in a while so a simpler cli that just wraps the api call would be better.
Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
#187The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…
My biggest hesitation with these things is that there is no limit to the possible bill I may receive when the agent goes haywire. Cloudflare doesn’t see this as a problem of course.
There's a whole payment section in the submitted article which addresses your concern, perhaps you should read it.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lets remind the purpose of incorporating in Delaware is legal tax evasion, so that we don't not have pensions, health insurance or anything nice, really. Rename to Greedware.
Investors usually expect that non-US founders incorporate in the US, and usually expect Delaware. There are other states that are more friendly to tax avoidance. Delaware is mostly preferred because it's a known quantity with mature regulation. Investors don't want to deal with dozens of different legal regimes, they want the one that they know about.
do you work on a cloudflare delaware-awareness project? Delawareness?
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it’s not. Companies have to pay taxes where they operate regardless of what state they incorporated in. Stop spreading populist internet bullshit. Incorporating in Delaware is like 95% about being in a predictable legal framework for any business related dispute imaginable.
Uhuh. And in other places, companies are incorporating in Ireland or Luxembourg or other similar tax evasion heavens because of the "predictable legal framework" too. Lol.
Right, and in other countries they have different laws. In the USA they also pay taxes where they operate. That's how it works.
Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy
#190That is ironic. Four years ago, cloudflare didn’t let human me have an account / buy domains because I signed up, never used a single service but didn’t respond to a request to verify my drivers license > This account is in violation of Cloudflare's Terms of Service. Specifically fraud. The suspension is permanent. (Yes that’s really it. Sincerely. No “but I also abused X”)
Money talks.