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Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by pocksuppet »

adventured wrote: post #106
estimator7292 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare gets a cut though, so it's valuable. As long as number go up, all good

Cloudflare operates as an at-cost registrar. They charge wholesale prices for domains. What cut are you talking about?

They may be wrong on that particular point, but Cloudflare definitely profits from increased crime as it drives increased sales of Cloudflare's security products. There are rumors they even knowingly help protect DDoS botnets because they benefit from there being more DDoS.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by ascorbic »

lejalv wrote: post #116
ascorbic wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People use agents to deploy sites all the time. Buying a domain is part of that if you want to build a site that's beyond a toy. Allowing agents to do a task isn't just for things you do every day – it's also for things you do rarely and need agents' help. It's not just devs using agents to perform these sort of tasks anymore. Stripe Atlas makes it massively easier for startups to incorporate in Delaware. This is par…

Lets remind the purpose of incorporating in Delaware is legal tax evasion, so that we don't not have pensions, health insurance or anything nice, really. Rename to Greedware.

Investors usually expect that non-US founders incorporate in the US, and usually expect Delaware. There are other states that are more friendly to tax avoidance. Delaware is mostly preferred because it's a known quantity with mature regulation. Investors don't want to deal with dozens of different legal regimes, they want the one that they know about.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by pocksuppet »

jasomill wrote: post #72
captn3m0 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By agreeing to these Terms, you represent and warrant to us: (i) that you have not previously been suspended or removed from the Websites and Online Services CloudFlare ToS has you covered. A human must accept it, even with the new agentic flow.

I think this is just saying you can’t sign up for a new account after a previously created account gets suspended, not that the act of suspension itself causes you to violate the the terms of service in perpetuity because, pedantically, any suspension that has happened, happened “previously”.

Also be aware most website ToS are worth the paper they're printed on.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by sshine »

grey-area wrote: post #69
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

The DNS provider I recently switched to surprised me with a policy:

To create records for more than one domain, you need to write a personal support email.

They say it's to raise DNSSEC awareness, but I think it's also a robot captcha.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by ascorbic »

makeitdouble wrote: post #102
ascorbic wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People use agents to deploy sites all the time. Buying a domain is part of that if you want to build a site that's beyond a toy. Allowing agents to do a task isn't just for things you do every day – it's also for things you do rarely and need agents' help. It's not just devs using agents to perform these sort of tasks anymore. Stripe Atlas makes it massively easier for startups to incorporate in Delaware. This is par…

Wouldn't it be critical if the agent botched the domain purchase in weird ways ? Short of throwaway sites (spam etc) it's hard to imagine skimping time on this specific, mostly painless part.

If the rest of your deployment flow is via the agent, needing to switch over to a different context and open up a browser and login (or create an account) and buy the domain absolutely is a bump in the road.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by Eufrat »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> It is cool feature but to what end?

Doesn’t this sum up most of the AI “innovations” we’ve seen shoveled in this bubble?

We constantly see AI thought leaders backpeddling on promises and just spouting general nonsense. Altman originally talked effusively about an era of “abundance”. An abundance of what? It’s a word salad of feel good vibes without any substance.

Sam Altman has gone from claiming AI might cure cancer to shoveling ads and the scope of AI seems to be reduced to mostly be suitable as flawed, imperfect, but mildly useful coding/automation agents that are likely subsidized beyond economic viability, but you can’t point that out because it’s the future!

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by awei »

This is an API. They now allow users to create accounts, buy domains and deploy from their api instead of going on the website. That's great. I am not sure I understand why all this complex protocol is needed though, especially now that you can generate a cli with a prompt.
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