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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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The agent starts a phone call, listens to the person on the line, analyzes which fraud bucket they fall into, and start the process. While they are on the phone with the agent, it buys a domain relevant to the victim, the agent codes and deploy the website specially catered to them and the fraud bucket. Collect payment, destroy the website, redirect the domain to google.com. no need to start a new call because you ha…

Some would argue, forcefully at that, that AI cannot make art and/or cannot be used to make art.

What I saw was Transmetropolitan setup, where Hole renews their presence online every 5 minutes or so to avoid government censor.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it.

Just like it is usually used: spam and (D)DoS

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. Sorry, but no, you totally miss the fact there are domain farms which buy the dropped domains and then offer them up for sale. Bots now use AI to analyze the domain's value and automate the whole process. To be able to let AI buy it as well likely offers a tremendous amount of time saving.

And that goes back way further than AI. We were doing some crazy stuff at Demand Media with enom and all their fake content sites.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This conflict is popping up everywhere. There is a push by a lot of companies to allow agentic use of their services (and new companies explicitly offering "X for agents"), ignoring the fact that "agent" means the same thing as "bot" which we've spent the last couple of decades actively filtering out. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

The future is the internet will be entirely bot activity and humans will ether be strapped in to the metaverse reels ai slop feed or they will be outside interacting with people in person again. Both of these seem like likely futures and probably both at the same time.

This reality also crystalized for me earlier this week when I saw a post about unchecked AI slop videos about WWE being posted to YouTube. Many of the videos suffer from the LLM stroking out (for lack of a better term) and devolving into mumbling, screaming and white noise. Yet, the comments are replete with obvious bot content which doesn't mention this at all and talks past the larger, flimsy narrative on display (i.e. AI-generated), anyways. We're exhausting our natural resources and reducing quality of life for a great number of real, live people so bots can talk past each other on YouTube.

So, if you're looking for me, I'll be hiking while it's still legal.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> to what end? People making cooking websites, websites for their garden, etc usually have nowhere to go. A web app who is an agent for a customer will then deploy agents in the backend to deploy the website too. Basically what one would do manually, you tell one agent to make another agent do it. Meta agents are where are going it seems.

> People making cooking websites, websites for their garden, etc usually have nowhere to go.

They've had WYSIWYG website builders since the late 1990s.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

#96
A few months back I was building a product and wanted to add domains. My first choice would have been to use Cloudflare as the registrar, but they didn't support buying domains via the API.

I wonder if this means I can now also buy a domain via the API?

*update* - seems so, but with some limitations: https://developers.cloudflare.com/registrar/registrar-api/#b...

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

People use agents to deploy sites all the time. Buying a domain is part of that if you want to build a site that's beyond a toy. Allowing agents to do a task isn't just for things you do every day – it's also for things you do rarely and need agents' help. It's not just devs using agents to perform these sort of tasks anymore.

Stripe Atlas makes it massively easier for startups to incorporate in Delaware. This is particularly hard for non-US founders. It solves a real problem. I don't think this part will be done by agents though!

Disclaimer: I work at Cloudflare but not on this

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

#99
I recently started migrating my DNS to a DNSSEC-enabled provider.

This involves copy-pasting DNSSEC properties from one web interface into another.

Pretty much everything but this step has been automated in my website creation process: Picking a git template for my site, creating the git repository remotely on my self-hosted Forgejo, setting up the webserver and the DNS using external-dns. Only the domain creation and initial pointing of NS and DNSSEC records is something I sit and do.

I'm not willing to switch to Cloudflare for this feature.

But it reminds me there's more to automate.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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The agent starts a phone call, listens to the person on the line, analyzes which fraud bucket they fall into, and start the process. While they are on the phone with the agent, it buys a domain relevant to the victim, the agent codes and deploy the website specially catered to them and the fraud bucket. Collect payment, destroy the website, redirect the domain to google.com. no need to start a new call because you ha…

Some would argue, forcefully at that, that AI cannot make art and/or cannot be used to make art. What I saw was Transmetropolitan setup, where Hole renews their presence online every 5 minutes or so to avoid government censor.

People used to say the same about photography a while ago.
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