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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by ACCount37 »

lxgr wrote: post #114
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. Which is arguably unfortunate, as it nudges people towards using centralized services because they simply don't know that they have the option to register one. For example, why not self-host a single-page party invitation site designed by an agent rather than using Facebook or Instagram?

A lot of what enabled Web 1.0 was how easy it was for an average web user to create his own website.

An average web user got far less technical since, and making a website got harder instead.

Now, if anyone could just ask an AI agent to set up a website, and get a personal page with an e-mail inbox and a domain - all reasonably secure, TLS set up, billing added as +$5 per year to the AI subscription bundle? Maybe that would help some.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by sshine »

ascorbic wrote: post #97
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

People use agents to deploy sites all the time. Buying a domain is part of that if you want to build a site that's beyond a toy. Allowing agents to do a task isn't just for things you do every day – it's also for things you do rarely and need agents' help. It's not just devs using agents to perform these sort of tasks anymore. Stripe Atlas makes it massively easier for startups to incorporate in Delaware. This is par…

> it's also for things you do rarely and need agents' help

I recently set up DNSSEC for the first time.

It really was just a bunch of copy-paste from one provider to another.

I like to understand what I'm doing, and LLMs helped greatly with that.

But it was copy-pasting screenshots into chat, so not really agentic.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by [deleted] »

ascorbic wrote: post #97
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

People use agents to deploy sites all the time. Buying a domain is part of that if you want to build a site that's beyond a toy. Allowing agents to do a task isn't just for things you do every day – it's also for things you do rarely and need agents' help. It's not just devs using agents to perform these sort of tasks anymore. Stripe Atlas makes it massively easier for startups to incorporate in Delaware. This is par…

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by mpeg »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

I think this post needs to be put in context, for months now Cloudflare has been releasing products that allow their whole platform to be usable by agents with the main objective of enabling their customers to dynamically write code using Cloudflare, this is just another step.

For example, you can now with Artifacts and Dynamic Workers make a lovable-style SaaS where your customers ask the AI agent to write software for them, the agent can run it in sandboxes with no build step, it can version it with a git-compatible API, and now you can even have it buy a domain for the end customer or set up their own cloudflare account when they want to move to production.

I personally have no use case for creating domains via agents, but some of the other features they're releasing around this area are extremely useful and I've started to ship internal tools for my clients where they are used, like giving them their own mini claude code that only does one thing – one I shipped last week was an agentic interface for Salesforce reports that understands their domain better (and all the undocumented tech debt) than the built-in Salesforce AI does and therefore manages the context better

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by lxgr »

ACCount37 wrote: post #131
lxgr wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. Which is arguably unfortunate, as it nudges people towards using centralized services because they simply don't know that they have the option to register one. For example, why not self-host a single-page party invitation site designed by an agent rather than using Facebook or Instagram?

A lot of what enabled Web 1.0 was how easy it was for an average web user to create his own website. An average web user got far less technical since, and making a website got harder instead. Now, if anyone could just ask an AI agent to set up a website, and get a personal page with an e-mail inbox and a domain - all reasonably secure, TLS set up, billing added as +$5 per year to the AI subscription bundle? Maybe tha…

Yes, this is exactly my hope too. Many hacker/cypherpunk ideas failed or never reached wide adoption because they were just too complicated for regular people: GPG/web of trust, self-hosting websites and email, having your own custom software for personal tasks…

Instead, everybody ended up using Gmail, iMessage/WhatsApp, and Facebook, and things are as centralized as they can be.

Agents could be a force in breaking that trend. Even if inference stays centralized, the artifacts agents create would not be. Basically the difference between everybody renting from one of a handful apartment building mega corps or being able to hire contractors to build your own things according to your ideas.

And just like there, it’ll probably help a lot to know a bit about how the sausage is made to not be taken advantage of. Also, many people will probably always continue to rent, which is fine. But the possibility of agent competition alone will hopefully keep centralized platforms and SaaS offerings on their toes, which is good for their users.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by itsafarqueue »

ethagnawl wrote: post #94
Gigachad wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future is the internet will be entirely bot activity and humans will ether be strapped in to the metaverse reels ai slop feed or they will be outside interacting with people in person again. Both of these seem like likely futures and probably both at the same time.

This reality also crystalized for me earlier this week when I saw a post about unchecked AI slop videos about WWE being posted to YouTube. Many of the videos suffer from the LLM stroking out (for lack of a better term) and devolving into mumbling, screaming and white noise. Yet, the comments are replete with obvious bot content which doesn't mention this at all and talks past the larger, flimsy narrative on display (…

You better mean “hiking” as in through the metaverse forest strapped into your corporate-sponsored VR headset, because outside time is for citizens only, friend.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by tietjens »

dewey wrote: post #53
faangguyindia wrote: post #29

One of the well-kept secrets about Cloudflare is: You can have a zero-cost inbox. Earlier, I was using Zoho and FastMail (however you dice it, it will use some money, $12 a year for Zoho and $7 per month for FastMail? Even then, perhaps you only get one mailbox and some aliases) but with this method, I get unlimited aliases, domains, and mailboxes: Now, I wrote a script which captures the email and saves attachments…

That's not a well kept secret, that's just a workflow that almost nobody would accept for their email setup which is the center of most people's digital identify and should always work and not be a duct taped construct to save a couple of bucks.

Here's my top-secret Rube Goldberg Machine that maintains my online identity.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by itsafarqueue »

pocksuppet wrote: post #123
jasomill wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is just saying you can’t sign up for a new account after a previously created account gets suspended, not that the act of suspension itself causes you to violate the the terms of service in perpetuity because, pedantically, any suspension that has happened, happened “previously”.

Also be aware most website ToS are worth the paper they're printed on.

Perhaps more accurately they’re worth what it costs YOU in legal fees to defend them coming after you. Those are real dollars you still have to spend.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

faangguyindia wrote: post #88
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it's highly available until it isn't and then that turns into your problem rather than something like Gmail just working

that's the thing it cannot stop working because webworker and email forwarding is very reliable, email itself has retries built it and soft bounce handling.

Just a heads up I have seen complaints about CF email forwarding completely dropping emails that failed to pass certain SPF validation. They get completely dropped and the worker doesn't get called and they don't get forwarded, rather than in something like Gmail it would end up in spam
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