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Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by wffurr »

Johnny555 wrote: post #104
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignore the "EV" part. B = Battery H = Hybrid PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

> PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home) You can , but in practice most people don't. And I can understand why -- it's inconvenient to have to plug in after every short trip, and the short electric range of most PHEV's means you do have to plug in after every short trip. I plug in my EV around once a week, and it's more convenient than going to the gas station, but I'm…

I plug in my EV almost every time I get home. The charger is hanging right next to my driver door in my driveway.

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Post by rootusrootus »

redwall_hp wrote: post #116
rootusrootus wrote: post #82

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Yes, also known as a series hybrid, though EREV has become the dominant term in my experience. Nearly all hybrids on the market today or at any time in the past have been parallel hybrids, where the electric and gas motors both attach to the drivetrain. BMW did make an EREV version of the i3. Chevy made the Volt, which was almost a series hybrid, but in the end still parallel.

The new Civic hybrid is a series hybrid. It puts down 200hp and does 0-60 in 6 seconds, all while getting 50mpg. It combines the torque of an electric motor with an Atkinson cycle engine, which is known for better efficiency but worse torque, as a generator. And it clocks in around 3200lb, a bit more than a classic Civic, but far lower than any BEV. The slight compromise is at constant highway cruising speeds, it may…

I would still call that a parallel hybrid, because it has the mechanical bits to connect the gas motor to the wheels, even if only when on the highway. I would guess that Toyota enthusiasts would be quick to point out that the Toyota parallel hybrid design is pretty elegant and ends up being more reliable, not less. But I'm not a Toyota enthusiast.

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Post by sandy_coyote »

slaw wrote: post #54
jampa wrote: post #11

This oil crisis was a huge boon for EVs. In Brazil, despite the "hate" most people have against EVs, BYD went from breaking into the top 10 in March to taking the #1 spot in consumer sales for the first time ever.

> BYD sold 14,911 units in April 2026 > total vehicle sales in March 2026 was 269,483 units So BYD market share is 5.5% in Brazil.

But how many BYD units were sold relative to other units?

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Post by wffurr »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #51
bloak wrote: post #2

I am so confused by the categorisation of cars: BEV, HEV, PHEV and so on. I think the industry insiders who write some of these articles don't realise how hard it is for some of their readers to keep track.

This is actually something I think is a pretty big failing in a lot of internet publishing You could easily turn those terms in the article into hyperlinks to definitions. You could even have the links go to definitions hosted on your own website to boost page reads and ad counts if you really wanted to

Most user agents allow you to trivially search from selection. Double-click unfamiliar word, right click, select "search" or on macOS there's also "lookup" but that really only works on dictionary words.

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Post by gib444 »

rsynnott wrote: post #34
washingupliquid wrote: post #12

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The id.Polo starts at 22k GBP. The ordinary, petrol-driven Polo also starts at 22k. You can see how massive increases in the price of petrol and diesel might influence purchasing behaviour there...

Minor point: The id.Polo isn't released in the UK yet and prices are not confirmed. VW are not shy about price rises either I believe, so I wouldn't imagine the £21.7k figure in the media lasting more than a year if that price-point does happen.

Also, my god, £22k for a petrol base Polo! That's about £4k above inflation-adjusted prices from ~15 years ago

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Post by mytailorisrich »

KaiserPro wrote: post #119
mytailorisrich wrote: post #105

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There is no need to go that high in salary (a lucky very small minority). The higher income tax band (40%) kicks in at 50k. Salary sacrifice schemes offer huge savings to many people.

true it does kick in at 50k but only for stuff over 50k. so its not a cliff like 100k or if you're at the other end on universal credit.

What I mean is that if salary sacrifice schemes on EV were only used, and very good deals, for people over 100k then it would be extremely niche as we're talking about the top 4% of earners whereas about 16% are higher band taxpayers...

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Post by KaiserPro »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #112
youngtaff wrote: post #67

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Motability is not 'a Government scheme that buys people cars' People use the mobility part of their PIP payments to lease a car from Motability which is an independent company, they could use the mobility payment to pay for taxi instead.

And you can claim you have anxiety in order to get a brand new Audi. So it’s a government scheme which buys people cars. It’s not independent, because it derives all of its income from the government and uses it to buy people brand new top of the range cars.

> And you can claim you have anxiety in order to get a brand new Audi.

You're gonna have to cite sources on that one, but I would sincerely doubt that £77 a week will allow you to lease an Audi.

Also the pip claimant has to be probed by a panel every three years to keep getting the benefit, unlike say a state pension (but I paid for that I mean possibly you did, its still a non means tested benefit, unlike PIP)

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Post by andruby »

pastudan wrote: post #40
bloak wrote: post #2

I am so confused by the categorisation of cars: BEV, HEV, PHEV and so on. I think the industry insiders who write some of these articles don't realise how hard it is for some of their readers to keep track.

Don’t forget PZEV (Partial Zero-Emissions Vehicle) which isn’t even an EV at all!

What horrible acronym/concept are those.

It seems to be a US thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle

> In California, PZEVs have their own administrative category for low-emission vehicles. The category was made in a bargain between automakers and the California Air Resources Board (CARB), so that automobile makers could delay making mandated zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs)—battery electric and fuel-cell electric vehicles.

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Post by numpad0 »

alistairSH wrote: post #111
iso1631 wrote: post #36

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> PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home) Surely that's the "same as a battery but you can use petrol on long journeys" The only energy input for a "hybrid" is from petrol. It's slightly more efficient. A Toyota Yaris 1.5 hubrid gets about 65mpg rather than the 45mpg on a Skoda Kamiq https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kamiq-2023 https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/real…

Sort of... IIRC, the latest Honda Civic Hybrid has the ICE decoupled from the drivetrain most of the time (even if it is running to generate power), but it can couple to the drivetrain under some conditions?

It's just a regular transverse FF with the clutch sandwiched by a pair of motors...

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Post by rootusrootus »

joshl32532 wrote: post #89
afavour wrote: post #61

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But compared to the US home charging via a mains outlet is much more viable because it's 240v vs 110v. If you plug you car overnight you'll typically have enough charge to last you the next day.

Most homes in US built after 1980s(?) have electrical panels with 240V. It's used for dryer, stove etc.

Most? You mean all. 240V [0] as been the standard in the US basically since electrification started in the late 19th century. 120V has for all practical purposes never been a thing, it has always been an artifact of split-phase 240V. A deliberate choice to offer two voltages to every consumer.

[0] Okay, technically 240V did not become official until around 1967, but the split-phase design was there from the beginning. They capped it at 240V to stop the creeping up that had been going on in the earlier part of the century. This is why you still have a lot of people (not all of them old enough to have been alive in 1967, oddly enough) that refer to 240V as 220.

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