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Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Fuel (diesel, specifically) in the UK is getting towards $10/gallon, so not surprising really!

A lot of fast chargers are over $1 per kwh so unless you have access to home charging there isn't much room for savings.

But compared to the US home charging via a mains outlet is much more viable because it's 240v vs 110v. If you plug you car overnight you'll typically have enough charge to last you the next day.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home And, in practice, the battery tends to be much, much bigger. Some PHEVs are basically mediocre-range electric cars which happen to have a petrol generator.

Which ones? A colleague drives a BMW 3something hybrid and as far as i know has a 14kWh battery.. Thats good for about a 100km, but i very much wouldn't consider that a "fully" electric car by any means (edit: did you edit your post? couldve sworn you said "fully electric" instead of "mediocre range"?)... Also, what most people don't realize: if you're only (or mostly) driving it electric, you're putting many more cy…

2026 Denza D9 has 66.48 kWh plug-in hybrid battery pack

https://carnewschina.com/2026/05/01/byd-deploys-new-heyuan-h...

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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> The increase reflects a rebound from an unusually weak April last year, when buyers pulled purchases forward to March to beat incoming vehicle tax increases

Yeah, all but diesel is up a lot. Electric only slightly more than gas as percentage

Diesel is down YoY https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Fuel (diesel, specifically) in the UK is getting towards $10/gallon, so not surprising really!

Fuel in the UK is £1.58 a litre (£1.48 at one garage I passed today, £1.61 at another, some garages are certainly profiteering) In 2022 is was £1.89 a litre and spent most of the year over £1.60 a litre Adjusted for inflation that would be most of the year at £1.85, and a high of £2.18 a litre https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time From 2011 to 2014 petrol was about £1.30 a litre. Adjusted for in…

Eh, last year I was paying the equivalent of £0.38 per liter over here in the States ($2 a gallon gas, $3.30 or so for diesel).

"Insanely cheap" for the UK to feels really strange for those of us way over here who tend to forget how good we have it.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is the exact kind of misinformation that prevents progress. Brazil does not "fuel" cars on sugarcane any more than the US fuels its cars with corn. No one is missing any forests or trees. What you are missing is that the cost savings in fuel are so large with any EV that by itself, the money saved is an extremely compelling incentive to many people.

> Brazil does not "fuel" cars on sugarcane any more than the US fuels its cars with corn. In Brazil "ethanol" is sold separately from normal gasoline, and as far as I know it's entirely made from sugar cane, without fossil fuels. It's why flex cars are so popular there, since they can use either fuel depending on what's cheaper. Meanwhile, you can't buy 100% corn-based fuel in the US.

sure, but Brazil is a net importer of refined petroleum. That exposes them to the global oil price.

Even though you cannot buy 100% ethanol in the US, the US alone is responsible for over half of global ethanol production, mostly from corn.

Regardless, any EV will almost certainly be cheaper to operate on electricity, rather than using corn, petroleum, or sugarcane for fuel.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is the exact kind of misinformation that prevents progress. Brazil does not "fuel" cars on sugarcane any more than the US fuels its cars with corn. No one is missing any forests or trees. What you are missing is that the cost savings in fuel are so large with any EV that by itself, the money saved is an extremely compelling incentive to many people.

> this is the exact kind of misinformation that prevents progress. lol > Brazil does not "fuel" cars on sugarcane any more than the US fuels its cars with corn. Brazil has been building cars which can run on 100% ethanol since the 1970s. These are not obscure facts; this is common knowledge the US teaches to schoolchildren. In the US gasoline is a 10% ethanol blend, sometimes 15%. E85 is available only in some midwes…

Ethanol is not a good fuel source for something like a personal vehicle. Corn and rice based ethanol are barely energy positive and can be slightly carbon positive.

Sugarcane-based ethanol does have a strongly negative carbon footprint and positive energy but ICE engines are notably less efficient overall that large utility scale cogen plants, even after you factor in transmission and distribution losses.

Making sugarcane into ethanol is good. It's less clear that distributing that chemical feedstock to a zillion people is a net benefit. Just send the electrons and keep the fuel at the plant.

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A fifth of these last year were paid for by the government scheme that buys people cars - Motability. I wonder how many of these current ones are like that.

Motability is not 'a Government scheme that buys people cars'

People use the mobility part of their PIP payments to lease a car from Motability which is an independent company, they could use the mobility payment to pay for taxi instead.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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The biggest seller of EVs here is the salary sacrifice schemes that give a huge discount to high earners, especially those with kids. Imagine you're on taxable income of £120k and have two chidlren in nursery. Currently you get no help with childcare costs from the government. From my own experience it's ~£6000 subsidy per child. You can currently take out an EV salary sacrifice scheme for ~£600 per month (pre tax),…

But how long until those children are no longer in nursery and you are not subsedised for it? In ~2 years you will no longer have this help, you will be paying through the nose for the outstanding amount on your new car, and your take home will be significantly less each month.
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