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Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by bluefirebrand »

bloak wrote: post #2

I am so confused by the categorisation of cars: BEV, HEV, PHEV and so on. I think the industry insiders who write some of these articles don't realise how hard it is for some of their readers to keep track.

This is actually something I think is a pretty big failing in a lot of internet publishing

You could easily turn those terms in the article into hyperlinks to definitions.

You could even have the links go to definitions hosted on your own website to boost page reads and ad counts if you really wanted to

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by retrac98 »

washingupliquid wrote: post #12
retrac98 wrote: post #6

Fuel (diesel, specifically) in the UK is getting towards $10/gallon, so not surprising really!

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Price sensitivity doesn’t spring into existence at the point something becomes unaffordable.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by swiftcoder »

iso1631 wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignore the "EV" part. B = Battery H = Hybrid PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

> PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home) Surely that's the "same as a battery but you can use petrol on long journeys" The only energy input for a "hybrid" is from petrol. It's slightly more efficient. A Toyota Yaris 1.5 hubrid gets about 65mpg rather than the 45mpg on a Skoda Kamiq https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kamiq-2023 https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/real…

> Surely that's the "same as a battery but you can use petrol on long journeys"

They put tiny batteries in a lot of plug-in hybrids. Unless you live very close to work, you’ll struggle to use it as primarily an EV

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by slaw »

jampa wrote: post #11

This oil crisis was a huge boon for EVs. In Brazil, despite the "hate" most people have against EVs, BYD went from breaking into the top 10 in March to taking the #1 spot in consumer sales for the first time ever.

> BYD sold 14,911 units in April 2026

> total vehicle sales in March 2026 was 269,483 units

So BYD market share is 5.5% in Brazil.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by mrob »

Oras wrote: post #18

Doesn’t increasing fuel price affect the electricity prices, which increases the charging cost?

The UK is well suited to wind power, already has many wind turbines, and continues to install more. We have a good amount of solar panels too. Renewables provide the majority of electrical power when conditions are good and the share will only increase. Electric vehicles avoid the biggest weakness of renewables (unreliable base load), because they can be set to charge unattended when cheap electricity is available. Electricity suppliers offer variable rate tariffs specifically for electric vehicles.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by physicsguy »

The biggest seller of EVs here is the salary sacrifice schemes that give a huge discount to high earners, especially those with kids.

Imagine you're on taxable income of £120k and have two chidlren in nursery. Currently you get no help with childcare costs from the government. From my own experience it's ~£6000 subsidy per child.

You can currently take out an EV salary sacrifice scheme for ~£600 per month (pre tax), and that brings your taxable income down by £7200. Put another £13k in pension. Boom, you're now getting £13k in pension p/a, and your car is effectively free, because you get £12k back in childcare subsidies.

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Post by bluefirebrand »

iso1631 wrote: post #42
Oras wrote: post #18

Doesn’t increasing fuel price affect the electricity prices, which increases the charging cost?

Electric price in the uk on an off peak tariff overnight is about 7p/kWh, or about 2p/mile, so charging your car overnight with the average electric mileage (10,000 miles a year - higher than the average mileage) costs £200, about £1300 a year less than petrol.

Can you actually get different tariffs in the UK for residential?

In Canada most of that is pretty opaque. Electricity tariffs are not really something that most households would worry about. Businesses and Industrial usage do though

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by bluGill »

Oras wrote: post #18

Doesn’t increasing fuel price affect the electricity prices, which increases the charging cost?

Maybe, in the best case, your gas engine is maybe 45% fuel efficient, but realistically, you're probably getting closer to 20-25%. By contrast, a combined cycle power plant gets over 60%.

But that's assuming we're just running power plants off of petrol and fuels. Coal is much cheaper than petroleum in some cases. There's also a lot of people who get their power from nuclear, hydro, solar, and wind. In many cases, your electric prices are not at all affected by the increases in petrullium prices, because most of your electricity is coming from something else. In fact, I doubt there's any place in the world that all your electricity is coming from petroleum fuels. Even if that's the major input, there are almost undoubtedly other sources in the mix.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Post by benj111 »

iso1631 wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignore the "EV" part. B = Battery H = Hybrid PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

> PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home) Surely that's the "same as a battery but you can use petrol on long journeys" The only energy input for a "hybrid" is from petrol. It's slightly more efficient. A Toyota Yaris 1.5 hubrid gets about 65mpg rather than the 45mpg on a Skoda Kamiq https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kamiq-2023 https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/real…

45 to 65mpg is a near 50% increase. I would say that's "slight"
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