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Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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Doesn’t increasing fuel price affect the electricity prices, which increases the charging cost?

That depends entirely on where you are. In Ontario electricity is mostly hydro, nuclear, and renewables. But also, compared to burning gas directly, EVs are still more efficient and require less gas if you burn the gas to charge the EV.

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There is also MHEV

And EREV, the only hybrid that makes sense.

Is that extended range? I was reading about them the other day. A small ICE engine in the car but it only charges the battery, right? Basically the opposite of a Toyota hybrid.

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This oil crisis was a huge boon for EVs. In Brazil, despite the "hate" most people have against EVs, BYD went from breaking into the top 10 in March to taking the #1 spot in consumer sales for the first time ever.

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If they have electricity they can charge from a regular power outlet.

A large portion of the population is well served by 120V charging and don’t need more than that. And for what it’s worth, parts of Brazil also run on 220V, so they’re even more set in that regard.

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Fuel (diesel, specifically) in the UK is getting towards $10/gallon, so not surprising really!

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The id.Polo starts at 22k GBP. The ordinary, petrol-driven Polo also starts at 22k. You can see how massive increases in the price of petrol and diesel might influence purchasing behaviour there...

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I am so confused by the categorisation of cars: BEV, HEV, PHEV and so on. I think the industry insiders who write some of these articles don't realise how hard it is for some of their readers to keep track.

Ignore the "EV" part. B = Battery H = Hybrid PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

> PH = Plug-in hybrid (Same as a hybrid but you can charge up the hybrid battery at home)

Surely that's the "same as a battery but you can use petrol on long journeys"

The only energy input for a "hybrid" is from petrol. It's slightly more efficient. A Toyota Yaris 1.5 hubrid gets about 65mpg rather than the 45mpg on a Skoda Kamiq

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/skoda/kamiq-2023

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/toyota/yaris-cross-2021

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post #17

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There are new 30k euros EVs on the marker right now.

23k even in some markets, ok, small low range cars. But yeah, the 30k ones start getting good.

The id.Polo is apparently starting at 22k GBP in the UK; the VW Polo's always been a pretty popular car (and also starts at about 22k). I'd expect those to sell very well.

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Fuel (diesel, specifically) in the UK is getting towards $10/gallon, so not surprising really!

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This is a good site for seeing the differents UK models, and their prices, that are on the market or coming onto the market.

These are all models under £20,000 - https://ev-database.org/uk/#group=vehicle-group&av-1=1&av-23...

There's also a large number of used EVs available. Here's a selection of 2024+ models between £8000-£10000

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?channel=cars&fuel-ty...

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this is the exact kind of misinformation that prevents progress. Brazil does not "fuel" cars on sugarcane any more than the US fuels its cars with corn. No one is missing any forests or trees. What you are missing is that the cost savings in fuel are so large with any EV that by itself, the money saved is an extremely compelling incentive to many people.

> this is the exact kind of misinformation that prevents progress.

lol

> Brazil does not "fuel" cars on sugarcane any more than the US fuels its cars with corn.

Brazil has been building cars which can run on 100% ethanol since the 1970s.

These are not obscure facts; this is common knowledge the US teaches to schoolchildren.

In the US gasoline is a 10% ethanol blend, sometimes 15%. E85 is available only in some midwestern states (I've NEVER seen it for sale anywhere on the west coast) and it's only good for flex-fuel vehicles, which most manufacturers stopped building ~ 10 years ago when the free money from the government shifted towards EV incentives.

Re: Two millionth electric car registered as market rebounds from tax changes

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I am so confused by the categorisation of cars: BEV, HEV, PHEV and so on. I think the industry insiders who write some of these articles don't realise how hard it is for some of their readers to keep track.

Don’t forget PZEV (Partial Zero-Emissions Vehicle) which isn’t even an EV at all!
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