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Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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Re: Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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Ehhh, afaik thats not the case in the community. These hypervisor bypasses are considered a different category. Like look at any scene page, they will 100% say Hypervisor or HV for these.

They are referred to as Hypervisor cracks.

Yeah I guess I was being pedantic. It doesnt matter. The important thing is that Deunvo is getting royally fucked.

Re: Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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Why would they care for a few hundred MBs when the games are in the 10s of GBs?

CPU cache space for code is much smaller than GPU memory for models (and the former is more important for performance since many CPU operations like pipeline parallelism are latency bound, not compute bound).

This. Why spend extra on x3d cpu when you can have a reasonable game size (not that it has large enough cache anyway)

Re: Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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The bigger problem with Denuvo is that it appears to significantly impact game performance as well

It can , but that seems to be more related to poor implementations by the game devs, and not inherent to it. There are plenty of examples of games with Denuvo that still run fine (give or take your opinion on whether the presence of DRM is inherently "impacted performance").

If many of your users misuse your tool, that's a design problem not user error

Re: Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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Don't forget that the guy behing Denuvo is the same person behind SafeDisc, SecuROM and similar bullshit siblings from the past PC gaming world.

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It's fairly well demonstrated that piracy is a service problem. For example, many people will pay hundreds of dollars for a game on Steam rather than play it for free on Epic (Rocket League). So clearly the free price point is not the problem

Re: Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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> For a long time now I've found it weird that people who like single player games on PC (and to a lesser extent older consoles which had piracy enabling mods) didn't acknowledge the long game consequences of their actions Isn't historically piracy positive for sales [1]? That said, I'm pretty sure the real issue is that single / local coop games are just not appealing and so they get weaker sales. Like wtf was with…

>Isn't historically piracy positive for sales [1]? if it was for the companies who use Denuvo and it added negative value then Denuvo wouldn't exist as a business and game publishers would happily post their games to pirate sites themselves. The level of copium involved in piracy debates is always a sight to behold. I'm no saint, I've pirated stuff too but I did so because I was cheap, not because I'm doing the compa…

How are the game companies supposed to determine that it adds negative value? Speak to the alternative universe where the same game wasn't bundled with it?

Re: Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected

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> For a long time now I've found it weird that people who like single player games on PC (and to a lesser extent older consoles which had piracy enabling mods) didn't acknowledge the long game consequences of their actions Isn't historically piracy positive for sales [1]? That said, I'm pretty sure the real issue is that single / local coop games are just not appealing and so they get weaker sales. Like wtf was with…

>Isn't historically piracy positive for sales [1]? if it was for the companies who use Denuvo and it added negative value then Denuvo wouldn't exist as a business and game publishers would happily post their games to pirate sites themselves. The level of copium involved in piracy debates is always a sight to behold. I'm no saint, I've pirated stuff too but I did so because I was cheap, not because I'm doing the compa…

The use of Denuvo has nothing to do with whether piracy hurts sales, only whether executives think piracy hurts sales. As we just saw, actual research on this topic has been suppressed because the results were wrongthink.
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