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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by yubblegum »

yankohr wrote: post #84

This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…

It is designed to undermine any future disputes regarding IP and their "AI" being trained on our mind products.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by noisy_boy »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #635
somebehemoth wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the constructive criticism is best directed at whatever process you are following. That process allowed a very visible user facing change in a widely used piece of software. How did this change make it to production without some process catching the impact of this change? Was there really no internal discussion from a code review at least? This seems hard for me to believe. I expect more from Microsoft.

It got to production because they wanted it. > This seems hard for me to believe. I expect more from Microsoft. Those are some baseless expectations given the entire company's history

Expecting more from Microsoft is the new showing-my-age: of being born in this century.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by 650 »

dmitriv wrote: post #273
650 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ This is the author of the MR - https://github.com/cwebster-99 - A Product Manager at Microslop I've routinely spoken on the uselessness, and oftentimes detriment of product managers in tech. The dearth of leadership driving for vanity metrics like PMs writing code doesn't help either.

I'm here in case you have something to say to me directly.

Why did a PM create the merge request? It seems like internal testing brought up issues, why was it merged regardless? Is velocity a metric you were aiming for when merging this?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by NegativeK »

4b11b4 wrote: post #780
dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

At a hackathon for my school recently a MS employee was a judge. ALL he wanted to tell me was that I should give VSCode another shot: "It's good now". You can't blame the dog, only the environment surrounding the dog.

Calling people dogs by analogy is not great.

That aside, corporations and groups don't make decisions. People do. We can understand and empathize with what led them to that decision (and sometimes we might be looking at the wrong person), but they're still responsible.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by mohamedkoubaa »

yubblegum wrote: post #779
mohamedkoubaa wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Principal engineer balks at bad UX when the PM should know better (it's their job) 2023: Ah well I guess we can't do it 2025: you're fired. Hey kid we hired two weeks ago, implement bad idea please

Give me a break. This was already happening with Web 2.0 and things like "microservices".

I know it's just that we are in an accelerated state of Putt's Law

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by esafak »

650 wrote: post #138
mister_mort wrote: post #41

This is pumping someone's metrics up inside of Microsoft, somewhere . The question is - will their boss revert it or encourage it when they discover the source of the stats being juiced?

A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ This is the author of the MR - https://github.com/cwebster-99 - A Product Manager at Microslop I've routinely spoken on the uselessness, and oftentimes detriment of product managers in tech. The dearth of leadership driving for vanity metrics like PMs writing code doesn't help either.

This is what happens when nontechnical people land production code in order to game their promotion metrics.

I sense the PM in question is disconnected from the sensibilities of the users she ostensibly represents. Looking at her record I see she never worked as a programmer. But with four years in her current position she ought to have figured this much out. Strong AI incentives perhaps?

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