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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by whattheheckheck »

polski-g wrote: post #131
yankohr wrote: post #84

This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…

Good point. That fake commit addendum means that the entire commit contents would not be under copyright protection. AI generated code is not currently copyrightable.

Is thos actually decided yet? Closest thing was the image generation cases. What's your go to source for this?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

> Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods.

Probably they thought the new generations forgot about how awful they were in the not so distant past.

I think they set it all on fire because greed got the better of them again.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

outside1234 wrote: post #101
krainboltgreene wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. It's the bourgeoisie dream: A means of production that also does the labor 24/7 and can't complain, infinitely spawnable. Theoretical slavery+, so of course they're throwing everything into the furnace for it.

BUT it is a trap: https://arxiv.org/html/2603.20617v1

One things for sure I won't be buying any SaaS, streaming, or ordering from Amazon if I have no future prospects for work. I already stopped most of my subscriptions because of a layoff unrelated to AI.

We buy food and go for walks as entertainment. It's been refreshing but also obviously scary.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by nsxwolf »

frizlab wrote: post #83
SwellJoe wrote: post #4

"Sent from my iPhone" marketing only works if people want everyone to know they're using the product.

But you can see it and remove it before sending. It’s definitely not the same.

Sometimes it randomly pushes without me asking, so I have a mess to clean up.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by mohamedkoubaa »

storus wrote: post #133
rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

It's a complete takeover of technically incompetent management that feels like it can finally execute their ideas to the fullest instead of relying on those pesky swengs with their obstructions, complaints and problems. We'll soon get the management utopia everywhere.

Principal engineer balks at bad UX when the PM should know better (it's their job)

2023: Ah well I guess we can't do it

2025: you're fired. Hey kid we hired two weeks ago, implement bad idea please

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by cookiengineer »

Animats wrote: post #7

Does that make the code uncopyrightable? Non-human authorship?

The real question is why Anthropic was able to use DMCA takedown requests "in good faith" against the Claude leaks when their own CTO claimed it is a 100% slopcoded codebase, and they themselves argue that all LLM generated code is transformed enough to not be copyrightable. Which they have to state without being able to turn back because they violated millions of book and software licenses during training.

Make it make sense.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by storus »

le-mark wrote: post #121
ryandrake wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These next few years are the real turning point. If they are right about AI and robotic workforces, then it's checkmate--they don't need us anymore, and we're next for the furnace. If they're wrong... well, I don't know... Will there be any consequences? Maybe a few people lose a few percent of their net worth.

Google will definitely lose. Llms supplants search. But not the old document search which they stopped doing long ago. Add in the fact that open weight models are 6-12 months behind frontier models means AI companies aren’t building a moat, they’re on a treadmill. And treadmills don’t justify the valuations OR the hype. AI companies are in trouble.

I see one profitable enterprise for AI that involves spying on everyone, managing their lives (or otherwise) tightly, automating foreign conquests and needing to make only the top decisions while delegating everything else, like a king. I can see a group or one could say a class of people that would happily invest in such future.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by Gibbon1 »

yankohr wrote: post #84

This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…

One could argue that Co-Authored by Copilot means 'not under copyright'

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by tln »

yankohr wrote: post #84

This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…

Absolutely, messing with commits is more invasive than messages. It gets worse:

"Sent from my iPhone" appears in the authoring view, and you can delete it.

Co-authored-by: NEVER appears in the commit message UI - it is added without the user even seeing it.

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