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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by gib444 »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

- A qualified sorry for one particular aspect of this

- It wasn't our intention

- Our users asked for it [you'll have to take our word for it]

- Everyone else is doing it anyway

- Statement that I am reasonable and will be co-operative with the community but with conditions

That's a bingo!

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by nicbou »

wren6991 wrote: post #525
dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

> There was no ill intent by evil corporation I simply do not believe you

It’s true. There was no ill intent, just a system of incentives that not only permitted but encouraged it.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by Kwpolska »

mohamedkoubaa wrote: post #146
storus wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a complete takeover of technically incompetent management that feels like it can finally execute their ideas to the fullest instead of relying on those pesky swengs with their obstructions, complaints and problems. We'll soon get the management utopia everywhere.

Principal engineer balks at bad UX when the PM should know better (it's their job) 2023: Ah well I guess we can't do it 2025: you're fired. Hey kid we hired two weeks ago, implement bad idea please

2026: you're fired. Hey Claude, implement bad idea please

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by sandeepkd »

Interestingly a product manager creates a PR with small but sort of policy change without any backstory/explanation, it gets reviewed by a single developer and merged without a single comment. The bar to make changes to a production software used by so many people has gown down considerably.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by croes »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Rule of thumb, such features should always be Opt-In

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by lucas_t_a »

alemanek wrote: post #409
dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Changing the default behavior for all of your users with no notification is pretty unforgivable. Even if this feature worked correctly, it obviously doesn’t, this should at minimum be a prompt after upgrade to let the user confirm that this is what they want. But honestly should be opt in for those that want it. To have it silently just start adding marketing copy to git commit messages is pretty bad. To have that ad…

please no more popups on vscode, im begging you

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by scrollaway »

galonk wrote: post #546
freedomben wrote: post #526

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wanted to say, while I think this feature was a bad idea, I sincerely applaud your willingness to post here, knowing you'll get roasted. Seriously brave and commendable.

They pretended to be fronting up but didn’t respond to anything after that. Doesn’t seem very commendable to me.

Other people aren’t your slaves. You don’t get to demand they respond immediately, and this Reddit-like mindset needs to die. HN is a place where we often can actually get devs from companies responding directly and listening to feedback, and this hostility is looked at by all the other devs from those similar companies and remembered when it’ll be their turn.

Stop making HN a worse place for everyone by being unnecessarily hostile. (and this comment is only mildly directed at you but rather at a bunch of people in this thread)

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by IshKebab »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #575
Aerolfos wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Changing the default behavior for all of your users with no notification is pretty unforgivable. I noticed that as soon as you make a bug report/feature request on VSCode's repo, you instantly get someone's OpenClaw agent with an automated pull request that sometimes wants to change defaults in the main codebase Looks like AI is really trigger-happy with that, with zero understanding or care that there's thousands…

And then they apparently posted an alibi "I'm sorry" here. Or maybe it is genuine, but the choice is between incompetence and fake "I'm sorry". Where is QA?

As far as I know VSCode doesn't really have QA. I'm not sure it even has tests, which makes it very surprising that it works as well as it does!

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by sandeepkd »

dmitriv wrote: post #571
golem14 wrote: post #375

I miss in this whole thread why this is happening. Presumably to be transparent whether code has been co-written by AI? What's in it for Microsoft? If we accept that AI can't copyright or own IP rights on something, then why? I have a sneaky suspicion that there's some lobbying in the works to overturn that ruling going forward. In the past, it was OK to build models from copyrighted data etc one might have found on…

The change was about helping teams ensure AI-generated code is attributed in commits - nothing to do with copyrights and the like. If you don't have to take my word for it - query VS Code repo for changes and issues that went into implementing this and you will see.

Thanks for jumping in the conversation. Logically it does makes sense to attribute the authors correctly, however in this context it might be helpful if you can provide any details about the users complaining that their PR's are being marked as co-authored even when they have not used the copilot? Is that intentional or a missed check in the implementation.

Also for layman readers like me who might not be actively involved, it might have been helpful to add the issue/referenced conversation why this change was made on the PR itself

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by [deleted] »

kgeist wrote: post #416
dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Interesting case: - a project manager vibe-coded the change without thinking it through at all - the PR was reviewed by an LLM - an actual engineer gave LGTM without really reviewing the changes, trusting the LLM Did I get this right?

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